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I urge you to consider selection bias here. I suspect there isn't significant overlap in the following populations: * people who submit to background checks, f
by LyndsySimon 9y ago
I urge you to consider selection bias here. I suspect there isn't significant overlap in the following populations:
* people who submit to background checks, fees, and hassle to obtain a carry permit
* people who carry firearms while intoxicated
* people who are inclined to settle an argument with a firearm
- mikestew 9y agoI urge you to consider selection bias here Consider it? Hell, I openly admitted to it.
- LyndsySimon 9y agoFair enough :) My own biases include that I often hear people implying that someone with a carry permit is more likely to use a firearm in a crime than someone who does not. That saddens me, and I do my best to try and challenge that idea (gently, in a professional manner) whenever I can. It looks like I jumped the gun a bit here :)
- chc 9y agoI would expect that the majority of the latter two groups are also in the first one, and very close to 100% of the last group is in the second one. Do you not think so?
- LyndsySimon 9y agoNo, especially not the first and second. It's extremely uncommon for someone with a carry permit to consume alcohol at all while carrying, much less do so in public and to the point of intoxication.
- CompanionCuuube 9y agoI would expect that you're right. Someone who is likely to do the second and third likely would not have the clean record needed for the first.
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- chc 9y agoYou appear to be disagreeing with the opposite of what I said. The question isn't "What percentage of people with a carry permit would get drunk while carrying?" but "What percentage of people who go out drinking while carrying a gun have a carry permit?" Those two answers can be completely different. For comparison, it is extremely uncommon for a human (group A) to be in my immediate family (group B), but everyone who is in my immediate family (group B) is a human (group A).