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What features are missing that should be implemented?

teddyh 9y ago
Not the OP, but omitting support for SRV records in HTTP/2 was a terrible missed opportunity, as I’ve written about here before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8404788 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8404788 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8550133 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8550133 I quote myself: “It really is no surprise that Google is not interested in this, since Google does not suffer from any of those problems which using SRV records for HTTP would solve. It’s only users which could more easily run their own web servers closer to the edges of the network which would benefit, not the large companies which has CDNs and BGP AS numbers to fix any shortcomings the hard way. Google has already done the hard work of solving this problem for themselves – of course they want to keep the problem for everybody else.”
- stock_toaster 9y ago
  Yeah, I agree that this was a really unfortunate omission.
- Shoothe 9y ago
  I would also like to see SRV record support in HTTP/2 but IIRC Mozilla did some telemetry tests and found out that a significant amount of DNS requests for SRV records failed for no reason (or probably for reasons mentioned in this submission). Unfortunately I can't find a source link for that claim right now.
  - teddyh 9y ago
    I know of two rather large users of SRV records already: Minecraft servers and (the big one) Microsoft Office 365. I’m less than convinced that resolution of SRV records is that broken.
    - Shoothe 9y ago
      Do you mean accessing Office 365 via browser uses SRV records or something different?
      - dylz 9y ago
        o365 general services (lync skype, outlook, ... / exchange autodiscover) uses SRV a fair bit. 365 is not just the browser suite
        Shoothe 9y ago
        Yeah but the services that you mentioned are used mostly by enterprises. It's still possible that SRV lookups are broken for large amount of consumers that are not enterprises.
        teddyh 9y ago
        And I wonder who that could be, if that is even true.
Shoothe 9y ago
Support for Client Certificates.
- slrz 9y ago
  Heh? People use client certificates with HTTP2 all the time. Is that nonstandard?
  - Shoothe 9y ago
    Are you sure it's HTTP2 or just HTTP2 that was downgraded to HTTP1.1 over TLS? Last time I checked client certs did not work on HTTP2 due to multiplexing see e.g. https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/httpbisa/current/msg25262.html https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/httpbisa/current/msg25...

Not the OP, but omitting support for SRV records in HTTP/2 was a terrible missed opportunity, as I’ve written about here before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8404788 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8404788 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8550133 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8550133 I quote myself: “It really is no surprise that Google is not interested in this, since Google does not suffer from any of those problems which using SRV records for HTTP would solve. It’s only users which could more easily run their own web servers closer to the edges of the network which would benefit, not the large companies which has CDNs and BGP AS numbers to fix any shortcomings the hard way. Google has already done the hard work of solving this problem for themselves – of course they want to keep the problem for everybody else.”

stock_toaster 9y ago
Yeah, I agree that this was a really unfortunate omission.
Shoothe 9y ago
I would also like to see SRV record support in HTTP/2 but IIRC Mozilla did some telemetry tests and found out that a significant amount of DNS requests for SRV records failed for no reason (or probably for reasons mentioned in this submission). Unfortunately I can't find a source link for that claim right now.
- teddyh 9y ago
  I know of two rather large users of SRV records already: Minecraft servers and (the big one) Microsoft Office 365. I’m less than convinced that resolution of SRV records is that broken.
  - Shoothe 9y ago
    Do you mean accessing Office 365 via browser uses SRV records or something different?
    - dylz 9y ago
      o365 general services (lync skype, outlook, ... / exchange autodiscover) uses SRV a fair bit. 365 is not just the browser suite
      - Shoothe 9y ago
        Yeah but the services that you mentioned are used mostly by enterprises. It's still possible that SRV lookups are broken for large amount of consumers that are not enterprises.
        teddyh 9y ago
        And I wonder who that could be, if that is even true.

Shoothe 9y ago

Support for Client Certificates.

slrz 9y ago
Heh? People use client certificates with HTTP2 all the time. Is that nonstandard?
- Shoothe 9y ago
  Are you sure it's HTTP2 or just HTTP2 that was downgraded to HTTP1.1 over TLS? Last time I checked client certs did not work on HTTP2 due to multiplexing see e.g. https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/httpbisa/current/msg25262.html https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/httpbisa/current/msg25...