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Why is that a concern? Obviously you can fool the system into thinking you have a gun, but I don't think casino's will have any qualms in banning fake-guns.
by tgb 9y ago
Why is that a concern? Obviously you can fool the system into thinking you have a gun, but I don't think casino's will have any qualms in banning fake-guns.
- mark-r 9y agoBased on their description of the tech, you can trigger the system with something that doesn't look anything like a fake gun. It just has to have similar resonances.
- 24gttghh 9y agoI think the false-negatives of such a system, which weren't entirely addressed ("will get better with machine learning"), would be worth more to look into than things not guns being seen as guns.
- mark-r 9y agoFalse negative and false positive rates are correlated, you can generally trade off one for the other - although I don't know how easy that is with machine learning. The false negative rate doesn't have to be perfect to be a deterrent - would you try to sneak a gun into a casino if you knew you had a 50/50 chance of being caught?
- 24gttghh 9y agoPeople sneak and accidentally take guns on a plane all the time and don't get caught, but I'm not sure what the 'catch-rate' is for that.
- clort 9y agoThe article mentions machine learning. So, it triggers, they search you, they find a thing that is not a weapon, they update their database and comp you something for disturbing you. Of course, they could as tgb suggests just ban anything that triggers their limited tests but that would impact income once word got around
- pavel_lishin 9y agoBut until that happens, a casino is consistently getting false negatives. What happens when the trinket for sale as you're exiting Cirque du Soleil looks like a machine gun to the system? Suddenly, you've got dozens of people held up at the entrance. At best, that's a customer service annoyance; at worst, a bad actor could use this to their advantage.
- nl 9y agoThen they put a sign up saying "please remove trinket from pocket". This really doesn't seem like a huge problem.
- apple4ever 9y agoSure it does. Who's going to go because they constantly get stopped?
- gozur88 9y agoWhich implies it shouldn't be too hard to sneak in a gun if it doesn't look like a gun to the scanner.
- tgb 9y agoWell, that's a concern (for the profitability of the casino) but isn't what I was replying to. The parent post was suggesting that there could be objects designed to look like guns to this system. I have a hard time imagining why anyone would do that.