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Completely disagree about there not being any political leanings. See the Controversial section here: https://i.imgur.com/vkBrkns.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vkBrk

Completely disagree about there not being any political leanings. See the Controversial section here: https://i.imgur.com/vkBrkns.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vkBrkns.jpg e.g. religious videos of any sort are automatically deemed controversial (way more inclined to be right leaning), but videos about racial justice (left) are exempt (unless, of course, they are anti-racial justice videos, in which case they must be removed.)

jacksmith21006 9y ago
You realize this for ads not the content to be in YT. I do not see anything that could be considered leaning right or left. You seem to come to this with a bias that Google is left leaning and why you see a political leaning situation here. I am a centrist and do not.
- mizzack 9y ago
  Yes I am aware what demonetization means. It's a very effective way to get people to stop producing content that does not align with Youtube/Alphabet/their advertiser's values. The problem here is the looseness of the guidelines and the complexity of navigating deep issues with nuance. Entertain me here for a second... Let's talk about a few hypothetical videos: "The positive contributions of undocumented migrants in the US" - positive content about immigrants. Exempt from demonetization per the guidelines. "The problem with illegal immigration in the US" - antagonism of a specific group of people/xenophobia per the guidelines. Should be demonetized. Now, do you think it's an unreasonable position to say that undocumented immigration has both pros and cons? Of course not, everything does. Youtube's distillation of rules that only allow for discussion of one side these issues with zero nuance is the problem. Coincidentally or not, the allowed positions for discourse align with the brand's corporate values.
ugh123 9y ago
>e.g. religious videos of any sort are automatically deemed controversial Thats not what it says. It reads "Content promoted by extreme religious groups" - Certainly there is subjectivity here and Google should provide clearer guidelines on what is deemed "extreme" (clearly violent jihad and isis recruiting would be considered extreme, and general islam/muslim content should be considered okay). But it clearly does not say "religious videos of any sort".

jacksmith21006 9y ago

You realize this for ads not the content to be in YT. I do not see anything that could be considered leaning right or left. You seem to come to this with a bias that Google is left leaning and why you see a political leaning situation here. I am a centrist and do not.

mizzack 9y ago
Yes I am aware what demonetization means. It's a very effective way to get people to stop producing content that does not align with Youtube/Alphabet/their advertiser's values. The problem here is the looseness of the guidelines and the complexity of navigating deep issues with nuance. Entertain me here for a second... Let's talk about a few hypothetical videos: "The positive contributions of undocumented migrants in the US" - positive content about immigrants. Exempt from demonetization per the guidelines. "The problem with illegal immigration in the US" - antagonism of a specific group of people/xenophobia per the guidelines. Should be demonetized. Now, do you think it's an unreasonable position to say that undocumented immigration has both pros and cons? Of course not, everything does. Youtube's distillation of rules that only allow for discussion of one side these issues with zero nuance is the problem. Coincidentally or not, the allowed positions for discourse align with the brand's corporate values.

ugh123 9y ago

>e.g. religious videos of any sort are automatically deemed controversial Thats not what it says. It reads "Content promoted by extreme religious groups" - Certainly there is subjectivity here and Google should provide clearer guidelines on what is deemed "extreme" (clearly violent jihad and isis recruiting would be considered extreme, and general islam/muslim content should be considered okay). But it clearly does not say "religious videos of any sort".