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I agree and have taken time to build a PC recently, after living in Mac world for 10 years. The hardware you can get is quite amazing (this is what I built htt

I agree and have taken time to build a PC recently, after living in Mac world for 10 years. The hardware you can get is quite amazing (this is what I built https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/6FXPxr https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/6FXPxr). Everything works and it's rock solid, it's also very quiet (something a lot PC users aren't so concerned about). Windows however I'm finding a lot harder to get on with. Windows 4K support is awful. So many broken and blurry dialogs and applications (including Microsoft ones). Retina, on the Mac, just works. I missed the Windows 8 disaster, however it appears some of it has spilt over Windows 10. Seems you can't have the hardware you want and the OS you want, you have to pick one or the other.

jzymbaluk 9y ago
Maybe I'm snowblind to it because I've been using Windows for so long now, but what are some examples of "awful" 4k support on Windows? I have a 15 inch 4k laptop and have been fairly pleased with the high DPI support Edit: Also, that's a rad build!
- fhood 9y ago
  4k support on Windows 10 is ok. Most major applications work but there are little things, like my home screen photo last night wasn't high enough resolution. For me they aren't usually a big deal, but coming from the Mac ecosystem you definitely notice them
- xedarius 9y ago
  There's quite a bit. The services dialog is blurry. The dialog that details the network devices is blurry. I have an ongoing battle with IntelliJ and PyCharm, fonts are all broken. Steam is totally broken, not to mention the games. I got QuakeLive (best bit about being back on Windows). Quake was all broken (rendered at twice the DPI), I had to find the shortcut and disable Application Scaling (wtf?). I could go on.
  - hungerstrike 9y ago
    > The services dialog is blurry. Not doubting you, but I just opened it and it's not blurry on my 4k monitor. To be clear, I hit Start, typed Services and pressed ENTER when I saw the Services desktop app. (Another way to open it would be to hit Win+R and type: services.msc) > I have an ongoing battle with IntelliJ and PyCharm, fonts are all broken. Sounds like a JetBrains problem. What's broken with them anyway? > I had to find the shortcut and disable Application Scaling (wtf?). That's called learning how to use a new OS. Also, I can't imagine that you have more complaints about games on Windows than you would on a Mac where there hardly are any games to begin with, are only half-supported or in perma-beta. As a Mac and Windows user of over 20 years, I feel that Windows is generally more flexible; you can make it do exactly what you want way more often than with the Macintosh OS. Things are simpler on the Mac, but that comes at the price of inflexibility.
    - xedarius 9y ago
      When I get home maybe I can take some screen shots. Maybe it will illustrate what I'm talking about. I take your point about flexibility and you're 100% correct on the gaming aspect.
symfoniq 9y ago
As a former Mac user, I can say Windows 10's 4K support is getting better. The Fall Creators Update improved some issues I was having when running multiple monitors with different scaling. At Microsoft's current pace, I expect the remaining HiDPI issues will be fixed sooner rather than later.

jzymbaluk 9y ago

Maybe I'm snowblind to it because I've been using Windows for so long now, but what are some examples of "awful" 4k support on Windows? I have a 15 inch 4k laptop and have been fairly pleased with the high DPI support Edit: Also, that's a rad build!

fhood 9y ago
4k support on Windows 10 is ok. Most major applications work but there are little things, like my home screen photo last night wasn't high enough resolution. For me they aren't usually a big deal, but coming from the Mac ecosystem you definitely notice them
xedarius 9y ago
There's quite a bit. The services dialog is blurry. The dialog that details the network devices is blurry. I have an ongoing battle with IntelliJ and PyCharm, fonts are all broken. Steam is totally broken, not to mention the games. I got QuakeLive (best bit about being back on Windows). Quake was all broken (rendered at twice the DPI), I had to find the shortcut and disable Application Scaling (wtf?). I could go on.
- hungerstrike 9y ago
  > The services dialog is blurry. Not doubting you, but I just opened it and it's not blurry on my 4k monitor. To be clear, I hit Start, typed Services and pressed ENTER when I saw the Services desktop app. (Another way to open it would be to hit Win+R and type: services.msc) > I have an ongoing battle with IntelliJ and PyCharm, fonts are all broken. Sounds like a JetBrains problem. What's broken with them anyway? > I had to find the shortcut and disable Application Scaling (wtf?). That's called learning how to use a new OS. Also, I can't imagine that you have more complaints about games on Windows than you would on a Mac where there hardly are any games to begin with, are only half-supported or in perma-beta. As a Mac and Windows user of over 20 years, I feel that Windows is generally more flexible; you can make it do exactly what you want way more often than with the Macintosh OS. Things are simpler on the Mac, but that comes at the price of inflexibility.
  - xedarius 9y ago
    When I get home maybe I can take some screen shots. Maybe it will illustrate what I'm talking about. I take your point about flexibility and you're 100% correct on the gaming aspect.

symfoniq 9y ago

As a former Mac user, I can say Windows 10's 4K support is getting better. The Fall Creators Update improved some issues I was having when running multiple monitors with different scaling. At Microsoft's current pace, I expect the remaining HiDPI issues will be fixed sooner rather than later.