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Got a source for the first claim? Second would've been a red flag if the Russian gvmnt would've been routinely blocking other chat systems.

by eps 9y ago

Terr_ 9y ago
The first claim? The "hounded by Russia" one? I'm not familiar with the story, but some quick searching reveals this: https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/16/telegram-fined-by-russian-court/ https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/16/telegram-fined-by-russia... The prime source seems to be founder Durov's social-media posts, retelling his communications to/from regulators.
- eps 9y ago
  No, the OP's claim, not theirs. Re: a huge office & a server farm.
baybal2 9y ago
>Got a source for the first claim? Here: https://medium.com/@anton.rozenberg/pavel-durov-sued-senior-tech-lead-for-1-7-b24961dec503 https://medium.com/@anton.rozenberg/pavel-durov-sued-senior-...
- baybal2 9y ago
  In the very end of the article, there are photos of the Telegraph LLC, the company behind Telegram, just a floor below the currently government owned VKontakte
  - eps 9y ago
    Re: servers - there are several paragraphs in the middle detailing Telegram's DC move to London. So your server farm claim is still unconfirmed. Re: the office - from what I gather, they maintain a shell company in Russia that sits in the former Telegram office. The photo merely shows that they may have a large office space, which may have been inherited by this company from their VK split for all we know. I really can't tell from this post if they do any development in their Moscow office.
    - baybal2 9y ago
      Their office is in St. Petersburg, not Moscow. Googling for a few minutes will give you plenty of evidence that they do.
Grue3 9y ago
Russian government is routinely blocking other chat systems. LINE, CacaoTalk and WeChat are currently banned.
- Dolores12 9y ago
  >LINE, CacaoTalk and WeChat are currently banned. No they are NOT banned, I just tried Line & WeChat.
  - Grue3 9y ago
    Maybe you got lucky with your ISP, or the apps learned to work around the block. My home ISP definitely blocks Line website. There are plenty of news sites reporting on the blocks, such as [1] [1] http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/08/technology/wechat-blocked-russia-china/index.html http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/08/technology/wechat-blocked-ru...
    - Dolores12 9y ago
      I have checked blocklist, indeed line.me is blocked[0]. I have tried to run application. [0] https://reestr.rublacklist.net/rec/170456/ https://reestr.rublacklist.net/rec/170456/

Got a source for the first claim? Second would've been a red flag if the Russian gvmnt would've been routinely blocking other chat systems.

by eps 9y ago

Got a source for the first claim? Second would've been a red flag if the Russian gvmnt would've been routinely blocking other chat systems.

Terr_ 9y ago

The first claim? The "hounded by Russia" one? I'm not familiar with the story, but some quick searching reveals this: https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/16/telegram-fined-by-russian-court/ https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/16/telegram-fined-by-russia... The prime source seems to be founder Durov's social-media posts, retelling his communications to/from regulators.

eps 9y ago
No, the OP's claim, not theirs. Re: a huge office & a server farm.

baybal2 9y ago

>Got a source for the first claim? Here: https://medium.com/@anton.rozenberg/pavel-durov-sued-senior-tech-lead-for-1-7-b24961dec503 https://medium.com/@anton.rozenberg/pavel-durov-sued-senior-...

baybal2 9y ago
In the very end of the article, there are photos of the Telegraph LLC, the company behind Telegram, just a floor below the currently government owned VKontakte
- eps 9y ago
  Re: servers - there are several paragraphs in the middle detailing Telegram's DC move to London. So your server farm claim is still unconfirmed. Re: the office - from what I gather, they maintain a shell company in Russia that sits in the former Telegram office. The photo merely shows that they may have a large office space, which may have been inherited by this company from their VK split for all we know. I really can't tell from this post if they do any development in their Moscow office.
  - baybal2 9y ago
    Their office is in St. Petersburg, not Moscow. Googling for a few minutes will give you plenty of evidence that they do.

Grue3 9y ago

Russian government is routinely blocking other chat systems. LINE, CacaoTalk and WeChat are currently banned.

Dolores12 9y ago
>LINE, CacaoTalk and WeChat are currently banned. No they are NOT banned, I just tried Line & WeChat.
- Grue3 9y ago
  Maybe you got lucky with your ISP, or the apps learned to work around the block. My home ISP definitely blocks Line website. There are plenty of news sites reporting on the blocks, such as [1] [1] http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/08/technology/wechat-blocked-russia-china/index.html http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/08/technology/wechat-blocked-ru...
  - Dolores12 9y ago
    I have checked blocklist, indeed line.me is blocked[0]. I have tried to run application. [0] https://reestr.rublacklist.net/rec/170456/ https://reestr.rublacklist.net/rec/170456/