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A significant portion of Apple employees are not happy with the Apple Park campus design at all. You might have noticed a whole other "R&D" building was built o

A significant portion of Apple employees are not happy with the Apple Park campus design at all. You might have noticed a whole other "R&D" building was built on the lot, with a more traditional design. That has a story apparently. > Gruber said that Apple's internal critics included high-level employees, and related a third-hand, unconfirmed account of Apple's senior vice-president of hardware technologies Johny Srouji refusing to work in the new facility. > "When he was shown the floor plans, he was more or less just 'fck that, fck you, fck this, this is bullsht,'" Gruber said. "And they built his team their own building, off to the side on the campus... My understanding is that that building was built because Srouji was like, 'fuck this, my team isn't working like this.'" https://www.dezeen.com/2017/08/10/apple-park-campus-employees-rebel-over-open-plan-offices-architecture-news/ https://www.dezeen.com/2017/08/10/apple-park-campus-employee...

mc32 9y ago
If they were trying to get engineers to acquiesce to an office layout design that some have agued has reached its peak, I can totally see why they would say "eff that bull". Bullpens (and open layout ala google/fb/etc) work for some kinds of teams and especially for sales and support, but probably not for engineers used to cubicles and offices. I am thrilled to see someone in leadership stick up for their team and say no!
kalleboo 9y ago
It seems telling that in the interview where Ive refuted the criticism he said "it wasn't built for you" and then only talked about how much better the new layout was for the design team's workflow.
ksec 9y ago
A lot of those criticism were even before anyone has moved in and worked inside it. I am sure Apple isn't silly to force unfavourable working condition in its Engineering department. Afterall Steve Jobs gave a lot of thoughts into it. Right or wrong it isn't something that break a company. And I think Apple employees are quite vocal in certain areas.

mc32 9y ago

If they were trying to get engineers to acquiesce to an office layout design that some have agued has reached its peak, I can totally see why they would say "eff that bull". Bullpens (and open layout ala google/fb/etc) work for some kinds of teams and especially for sales and support, but probably not for engineers used to cubicles and offices. I am thrilled to see someone in leadership stick up for their team and say no!

kalleboo 9y ago

It seems telling that in the interview where Ive refuted the criticism he said "it wasn't built for you" and then only talked about how much better the new layout was for the design team's workflow.

ksec 9y ago

A lot of those criticism were even before anyone has moved in and worked inside it. I am sure Apple isn't silly to force unfavourable working condition in its Engineering department. Afterall Steve Jobs gave a lot of thoughts into it. Right or wrong it isn't something that break a company. And I think Apple employees are quite vocal in certain areas.