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We understand his broken incentives and allegiances. But most people have at least a small amount of allegiance to and empathy with the general population. Perh

We understand his broken incentives and allegiances. But most people have at least a small amount of allegiance to and empathy with the general population. Perhaps they won't necessarily listen if the opposition is weak, or if they think they can get away with it. But Pai has tens of millions of people vehemently opposing him. He is probably recieving jeers and hate mail and rude gestures every time he goes out in public. And people have even started harassing his family - at what point does the money cease to be worth it? Most people would have given up under a hundredth of that backlash.

danjoc 9y ago
One of the dirtiest aspects I've seen in this whole NN debate has been the very ugly behavior of NN proponents. That, as much as anything, has eliminated any support I might have had for NN. Pai digs in and fights back against racist death threats? Good for him. Shame on anyone expecting him to back down in the face of that.
- dasil003 9y ago
  If you're going to dismiss a cause because some of the proponents use ugly tactics then I don't see how you can maintain any moral convictions whatsoever.
  - danjoc 9y ago
    >some of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QorHUU-Kg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QorHUU-Kg read comments read most upvoted comments >You can't say "One thing that should remain Sacred is family, wife, and kids"... when there are families who make a living by working online. If this goes through MILLIONS of people will be fucked... I can assure you .. If this falls through, go into witness protection or some shit because you are gonna get killed. Period. 384 upvotes >This twatwaffle needs to be burned at the stake. 301 upvotes These are people promoting Net Neutrality. I don't support that. It is disgusting.
    - shmerl 9y ago
      > I don't support that But you implied that don't support NN itself, not disgusting comments. So do you support monopolists?
    - wozz 9y ago
      You completely ignore the actual point, logical fallacies everywhere on your part. strawman: misrepresenting argument to make it easier to attack ad hominem: attacking your opponent's character or personal traits instead of engaging with their argument appeal to emotion: manipulating an emotional response in place of a valid or competing argument texas sharpshooter: cherry-picking data clusters to suit an argument, or finding a pattern to fit a presumption
- trophycase 9y ago
  Yeah cause upvoting Reddit and Hackernews posts and typing your name into some website is really going to do anything. If this guy is going to play dirty then I don't see why others shouldn't fight back.
- mulmen 9y ago
  That's a very self-destructive position to take. Unfortunately it also hurts the rest of us.

danjoc 9y ago

One of the dirtiest aspects I've seen in this whole NN debate has been the very ugly behavior of NN proponents. That, as much as anything, has eliminated any support I might have had for NN. Pai digs in and fights back against racist death threats? Good for him. Shame on anyone expecting him to back down in the face of that.

dasil003 9y ago
If you're going to dismiss a cause because some of the proponents use ugly tactics then I don't see how you can maintain any moral convictions whatsoever.
- danjoc 9y ago
  >some of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QorHUU-Kg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QorHUU-Kg read comments read most upvoted comments >You can't say "One thing that should remain Sacred is family, wife, and kids"... when there are families who make a living by working online. If this goes through MILLIONS of people will be fucked... I can assure you .. If this falls through, go into witness protection or some shit because you are gonna get killed. Period. 384 upvotes >This twatwaffle needs to be burned at the stake. 301 upvotes These are people promoting Net Neutrality. I don't support that. It is disgusting.
  - shmerl 9y ago
    > I don't support that But you implied that don't support NN itself, not disgusting comments. So do you support monopolists?
  - wozz 9y ago
    You completely ignore the actual point, logical fallacies everywhere on your part. strawman: misrepresenting argument to make it easier to attack ad hominem: attacking your opponent's character or personal traits instead of engaging with their argument appeal to emotion: manipulating an emotional response in place of a valid or competing argument texas sharpshooter: cherry-picking data clusters to suit an argument, or finding a pattern to fit a presumption
trophycase 9y ago
Yeah cause upvoting Reddit and Hackernews posts and typing your name into some website is really going to do anything. If this guy is going to play dirty then I don't see why others shouldn't fight back.
mulmen 9y ago
That's a very self-destructive position to take. Unfortunately it also hurts the rest of us.