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Why are videos / channels clearly target at children allowed to be monetized and show advertisements? Further, why would any parents allow their children to wa
by dublinben 9y ago
Why are videos / channels clearly target at children allowed to be monetized and show advertisements?
Further, why would any parents allow their children to watch them?
- pen2l 9y ago> Further, why would any parents allow their children to watch them? Do you have children? This is one of those things where when you're talking about it or thinking about it, it's common sense. Of course you're not going to let them watch TV! Or Youtube! But then when you have a kid who is _just_ not stopping to cry, and you happen to be working from home this one day, and can't afford a babysitter or daycare, and you're tired and terribly sleep-deprived, you ... just resign to it, you give them your smartphone and off they merrily go and you're a little bit of a headache free, for now.
- jdavis703 9y agoMy mother solved the TV problem easily: don't have a TV in the house. Of course cellphones are now TVs, so that's a bit harder. But -- and I know I'll get down votes for writing this -- you as a parent are supposed to be in control. If I cried over something dumb like this, I'd absolutely be having a painfully intimate moment with a ruler, belt or hand. I say this as a 27 year old: these days parents are afraid to physically discipline their kids, and then wonder what's wrong with their kids.
- lovich 9y agoAt least where I live you would get cops called on you for spanking your kid. Lots of people are against it and view it as child abuse, so even if you view it as acceptable society will punish you for carrying out the corporal punishment.
- thenewwazoo 9y agoStudy after study has shown that spanking kids has detrimental effects on behavior later on. The solution you're advocating is the exact same trade-off you're deriding: gaining compliance now for negative consequences later.
- lovich 9y agoI'm advocating nothing, as I don't really have a personal opinion on soanking. OP implied that people didn't spank their kids out of ignorance. I was just pointing out that there are forces preventing people from spanking their kids, even if they want to do so
- potta_coffee 9y agoThis is absolutely right, but we live in a neutered society. Parents are absolutely worried about having the cops called on them if they strike their children, even in a an appropriate disciplinary manner. Also we've had years of experts telling us not to discipline our children. Result, unruly children who become unruly adults.
- buerkle 9y agoYou can discipline without resorting to violence. People do it everyday in school, workplace, and all manners of life. I'm not sure why violent discipline is ok when it comes to children.
- rayiner 9y agoI'm not up to date on the research on corporal punishment, but isn't the obvious distinction that adults can respond to rational incentives, and children cannot?
- buerkle 9y agoHow is that obvious? I have two kids that respond quite well to rational incentives. On the other hand some adults I know respond to irrational incentives all the time.
- kevindqc 9y agohttp://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx
- sjg007 9y agoChildren are absolutely rational when you present the incentives appropriately.
- pen2l 9y agoScientists seem to take a strong stand against corporal punishment, but I do have to say, as an Asian dude I know _lots_ of Asian people (well really everyone from Asia) who are brilliant (engineers, surgeons, businessmen) and seem mentally fine and well and they were disciplined physically both at home and school. My pet theory is that since in school environments physical punishment was distributed "equally", that's not as bad. I really wonder how far back corporal punishment dates in the west, and whether brilliant people like Einstein ever received physical punishment.
- automatoney 9y agoConsensus among scientists seems to be that physical discipline is less effective. http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx
- CobrastanJorji 9y agoI think we have arrived at a significant culture clash. I believe that whipping children is quite bad and, on its face, substantially worse than allowing children to watch videos of other children happily playing with toys.
- ovulator 9y agoWhat does hitting your kid when they cry resolve? A kid doesn't get to watch TV. They cry. They still don't get to watch TV. They get used to it and stop crying. Why does hitting need to be involved? Does your boss hit you when your less productive at work?
- sjg007 9y agoViolence begets violence. Using violence teaches kids to be violent, aggressive and anti-social even under the guise of discipline. This is well known in child development. It also doesn't work. Even the worst behaviors can be managed effectively without resorting to violence.
- anigbrowl 9y agoYeah I had parents that thought way. Eventually I had enough of it and gave it right back to them. Think about that before you start a family.
- dragonwriter 9y ago> If I cried over something dumb like this, I'd absolutely be having a painfully intimate moment with a ruler, belt or hand Children, especially very young children, cry over dumb things; it's normal and expected and beating them for it is both cruel and (as mountains of evidence have shown) counterproductive developmentally. That's not to say parents should give in to tantrums, they should not. But there is a vast space between giving in to tantrums and beating children for them, and it's somewhere in that space that good parenting lies.
- brudgers 9y agoOr you realize that the theory isn't that important after encountering families who don't let their children watch TV and observing bad behavior. And encountering families who allow outrageous TV watching and noticing good behavior.
- guelo 9y agoAnecdotes are not data.
- balls187 9y agoI think the GP was asking about letting kids watch ad-sponsored youtube channels. Lots of parents end up having that time to use screen time as a crutch. I just avoid the most egregious sources, like youtube. Netflix, Amazon, HBO, and my personal collection of Disney & Pixar films, all have enough kids content that if I need that extra help, I can go towards.
- damontal 9y agoI have four kids and outright banned YouTube in our house after that elsagate article in the nyt. I just don't have the time or desire to monitor what YouTube decides to show them. With Netflix I have a much better idea of what they're seeing. Plus they will watch an entire show with a beginning mine middle and end on Netflix. When they asked why no more YouTube I told them I didn't want them seeing ads and that Netflix is enough. I guess that's a long way of saying that it's possible to hand your kid a smart phone to get them out of your hair without involving YouTube.
- astura 9y agoI can't tell if this is an intentional strawman but you are in no way addressing the question. There is literally millions of hours of high quality content to distract children that is not commercial. In fact, young children will happily watch the same thing over and over again. So why allow them to watch low quality commercial content? Personally, I literally don't know of a single kid that's allowed to watch YouTube. Trust me, they don't run out of things to watch without it.
- ahjushi 9y agoNot much different from cartoons/channels targeted at children on television IMO.
- iak8god 9y agoIs there any real difference between this and targeting children with advertisements on good old fashioned TV?
- eropple 9y agoIt probably isn't, but isn't that awful, too? One thing I have noticed over the last ten years is how much quieter it is in my home than my parents' house when I was growing up. Not people, but advertising. I actively notice (and reject) advertisements when I'm exposed to them today because I've largely built my habits around things that are not trying to sell things to me. Bathing children in constant upsells and advertising seems like a really bad idea to me.
- iak8god 9y ago> It probably isn't, but isn't that awful, too? Sure, but it's something we've been doing for decades. And I can't really blame parents for keeping kids occupied the easy way for a few hours at a time.
- eropple 9y agoBeing something we've been doing for decades is no reason to continue, though. I'm not blaming parents. This is a collective problem. We killed Joe Camel; we can kill other ads designed to mess with kids' brains, too.
- avenius 9y agoHere in Norway, advertising towards children is actually banned (at least for TV). Some channels get around this by broadcasting from other countries (ironically the ones that show the most cartoons), but at least there was a conscious effort made at one point.
- striking 9y agoThere are limits to how much you can advertise to children on TV nowadays. It's one of the reasons Saturday morning cartoons died.
- roywiggins 9y agoKids cartoon TV shows are essentially longform mechandising gambits, with kid-oriented advertisements on top, so it wouldn't be entirely out of bounds.
- yeukhon 9y agoI haven't been able to read the article due to the paywall. This is about incentive. You buy toys and books for kids and they are monetized, aren't they? My friend and I work on a "life hacks" YT channel together because we can take our minds off of work on the weekend as we be creative with new hacks and editing videos. We don't think we will generate revenue, but we do hope one day we will because props do cost money. We have a friend who's a full time mother. Like us, She started a YT channel to share with people how to make new toys as an interest. It took one video to go viral and now she has over 50K subscribers and she makes decent income.
- gbraad 9y agoIn my region, commercials were shown for evening shows/sitcoms. I forgot the name but pens and jrking were mentioned as part of the teaser. This happened more than once. So, I don't think they realise... I do not allow anymore, as this is seen as a spoiled kid with too many toys/attention in our house. We rather focus on having toys that last, like Lego. The way this is portrayed is subliminal as the kids are unaware of it being sponsored. The real show or review element is hardly there. Although, some stuff I easily allow, like coilbook, super simple songs or race grooves or some stop motion videos...