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Gah. I hate saying it, but 600$ for 6 books?! Im sorry, but i'm poor. He deserves money for his accomplishments but i'll wait for a torrent to be published. Th

Gah. I hate saying it, but 600$ for 6 books?! Im sorry, but i'm poor. He deserves money for his accomplishments but i'll wait for a torrent to be published. Then, I can at least read what he's doing and be awed. And then ii'll stick with my goodwill 2$ cookbooks and written down recipes.

tptacek 16y ago
Where to start? * It's not $600; it's $425. * That's not far from what TAOCP costs per-volume. * The production quality (and costs) of these books dwarf TAOCP's; TAOCP isn't also a set of coffee-table books. * They're vitally important to cooking as a profession; moreso because there are so few key books (McGee, New Pro Chef, La Guide) in cooking, especially compared to computing. * Myrvhold poured a huge, vast, mind-boggling amount of research into these books; they aren't a get rich quick scheme. * If $500 is too much (and it's too much for me!), you aren't the audience; you want Cooks Illustrated instead. * "Waiting for a torrent": classy.
- TheAmazingIdiot 16y ago
  Where for me to start? * Lost my job * Sued for medical bills because insurance didn't cover what they said they would. * Dumped my fiancé after horrendous fights and my emotional stability. * Apartment complex broke my contract by letting her out of lease while holding me liable for the whole contract. * Finally evicted and living in a spare room of good friends out of the goodness of their hearts. * 3 month wait on unemployment in Indiana because employer disputed it. * School is paid for, but due to medical condition when I failed school, they refuse me admittance calling it an academic issue - oxycontin, perocet, and hydrocodone = finals fail. * My right arm can only bend in certain areas but load bearing above my head is less than 5lbs. Disabled enough for free schooling, but not enough for SS disability. * 10% unemployment in this area. So yes, maybe i'm "classy". However, you have no idea of my circumstances. Its not like I could afford it anyway. The lawsuits for garnishment for my medical bills have netted 0$. Cant get work. And im relying on my friends for food even, until food stamps are granted. So go ahead, heap on the criticism.
  - tptacek 16y ago
    Given your circumstances, why do you even have an opinion about $500 professional cooking books? Sorry you got dumped on --- I'm really just commenting to point out that this is priced along the lines of TAOCP --- but really why are you even thinking about this stuff? I meant what I said. Cooks Illustrated is excellent, and they publish so many books every year that you can get (absolutely great) older editions for ultra cheap. And also, I meant it: don't torrent books.
    - TheAmazingIdiot 16y ago
      So because Im poor, I shouldn't keep reading about all sorts of things on the forefront of technology, or at least form some sort of an opinion? And money is hardly an indicator of intelligence. Yeah, my situation sucks. Really sucks. However, I will still keep learning and doing, even if I have to skirt the law here and there to do as such. And if your point of not using torrents is because it's "bad", guess that makes me bad. I've downloaded all sorts of material, quite a bit which is not offered in any format. And yes, when I was better off, I did buy stuff that I could easily have gotten for free. But your high and mighty attitude would never excuse it for any reason, an attitude I despise.
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      - starkfist 16y ago
        When I was broke I read lots of books but certainly didn't care about what a patent trolling dong from Microsoft thought about Sous Vide (still don't). Maybe that's what t.ptacek meant?
        tptacek 16y ago
        Patent troll or not, you (probably --- I don't have the books) have to respect the effort. The guy has a zillion dollars and has chosen to spend some of it to make the largest possible impact on cooking. That's pretty cool.

tptacek 16y ago

Where to start? * It's not $600; it's $425. * That's not far from what TAOCP costs per-volume. * The production quality (and costs) of these books dwarf TAOCP's; TAOCP isn't also a set of coffee-table books. * They're vitally important to cooking as a profession; moreso because there are so few key books (McGee, New Pro Chef, La Guide) in cooking, especially compared to computing. * Myrvhold poured a huge, vast, mind-boggling amount of research into these books; they aren't a get rich quick scheme. * If $500 is too much (and it's too much for me!), you aren't the audience; you want Cooks Illustrated instead. * "Waiting for a torrent": classy.

TheAmazingIdiot 16y ago
Where for me to start? * Lost my job * Sued for medical bills because insurance didn't cover what they said they would. * Dumped my fiancé after horrendous fights and my emotional stability. * Apartment complex broke my contract by letting her out of lease while holding me liable for the whole contract. * Finally evicted and living in a spare room of good friends out of the goodness of their hearts. * 3 month wait on unemployment in Indiana because employer disputed it. * School is paid for, but due to medical condition when I failed school, they refuse me admittance calling it an academic issue - oxycontin, perocet, and hydrocodone = finals fail. * My right arm can only bend in certain areas but load bearing above my head is less than 5lbs. Disabled enough for free schooling, but not enough for SS disability. * 10% unemployment in this area. So yes, maybe i'm "classy". However, you have no idea of my circumstances. Its not like I could afford it anyway. The lawsuits for garnishment for my medical bills have netted 0$. Cant get work. And im relying on my friends for food even, until food stamps are granted. So go ahead, heap on the criticism.
- tptacek 16y ago
  Given your circumstances, why do you even have an opinion about $500 professional cooking books? Sorry you got dumped on --- I'm really just commenting to point out that this is priced along the lines of TAOCP --- but really why are you even thinking about this stuff? I meant what I said. Cooks Illustrated is excellent, and they publish so many books every year that you can get (absolutely great) older editions for ultra cheap. And also, I meant it: don't torrent books.
  - TheAmazingIdiot 16y ago
    So because Im poor, I shouldn't keep reading about all sorts of things on the forefront of technology, or at least form some sort of an opinion? And money is hardly an indicator of intelligence. Yeah, my situation sucks. Really sucks. However, I will still keep learning and doing, even if I have to skirt the law here and there to do as such. And if your point of not using torrents is because it's "bad", guess that makes me bad. I've downloaded all sorts of material, quite a bit which is not offered in any format. And yes, when I was better off, I did buy stuff that I could easily have gotten for free. But your high and mighty attitude would never excuse it for any reason, an attitude I despise.
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    - starkfist 16y ago
      When I was broke I read lots of books but certainly didn't care about what a patent trolling dong from Microsoft thought about Sous Vide (still don't). Maybe that's what t.ptacek meant?
      - tptacek 16y ago
        Patent troll or not, you (probably --- I don't have the books) have to respect the effort. The guy has a zillion dollars and has chosen to spend some of it to make the largest possible impact on cooking. That's pretty cool.