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It's interesting to see the timing on when mainstream media runs these things. BBC is picking this up when most of the intensity around the topic was piping up

by crsv 9y ago

It's interesting to see the timing on when mainstream media runs these things. BBC is picking this up when most of the intensity around the topic was piping up on Reddit over the last couple of months. I just find the lag between when something hits the BBC vs the people directly involved with it fascinating. The devolution of stream content on Twitch is really is something that needs to be addressed though. Anyone that thinks that Twitch isn't turning in to a soft-core cam girls site can just load the IRL section of Twitch and see for themselves. It takes about a 30 second cursory glance to see the themes.

ben_w 9y ago
UK news probably doesn’t provide much insight by way of timing; 98% is Brexit related now, even reader reviews of books published ten years ago — the rest is blessed relief that is often rapidly overcome with more Brexit.
freeflight 9y ago
> Anyone that thinks that Twitch isn't turning in to a soft-core cam girls site can just load the IRL section of Twitch and see for themselves. And it's not even like anybody is trying to hide it, the Patreon's of many of these Streamers involve rewards like "Private lewd pictures" and their "gaming" often boils down to a video of a game being played in a small corner of the screen or simply playing rhythm/dance games. Some of these Streamers advertise the fact they work as strippers/dancers in some place, it's a really weird combination of gaming and cam-girl culture. Imho it's kinda exploitive considering how it combines two of the things young males in puberty just love to do and plays on them very heavily.
- mschuster91 9y ago
  I dont see what's exploitive on young males there. Older generations have had Playboys from the gas station and dad's VHS collection (or if they knew someone, their own), my generation had emule, Us porn sites and prepaid CCs, the new generation has patreon and camgirls.
  - hateduser2 9y ago
    They try to emotionally manipulate their viewers into donating to them. Or they try to form a real bond. There’s some clear mix of genuine value for the lonely donators and id assume emotional abuse on the part of the streamers.
    - lwkl 9y ago
      I had to laugh if showing some cleavage, saying thank you or talking to you is emotional manipulation or even abuse. Maybe there is really some truth to the lonely nerd. It's probably just people stuck in their teens or teenagers. It's exactly like the teenage girls loving some star they never met and thinking they'll get married and all. The more I read and think about it the more I'm asking myself how there can such an outrage about it.
      - hateduser2 9y ago
        Taking advantage of an emotionally vulnerable person, or as you put it "showing some cleavage, saying thank you or talking to you" is abusive. Just because you trivialize it (which you should feel ashamed for doing, very harmful attitude) doesn't mean its not abusive or wrong.
        Bendingo 9y ago
        > "... or talking to you" is abusive Please tell me you're kidding.
        hateduser2 9y ago
        Are you a Russian trollbot? I just read your comment history. The agenda seems to be: 1) disrupt empathy/modern thought on mental issues 2) promote Russia 3) demean the US You literally wrote you were in awe of Russia’s builders and that the US is at fault for North Korea. Wtf????
      - freeflight 9y ago
didibus 9y ago
Interesting, I watch a lot of IRL, in fact I got back into twitch because of it. I follow sketch artists, someone who live streams their travels around the world, a DJ doing live shows, a talented body painter that does super-hero shorts, etc. Maybe I'm just really good now at the mental filtering of Internet, but it wasn't hard for me to find the interesting content. That said, I can understand that it could over time degenerate, and Twitch will need to keep up quality. I think for Twitch, quality is more important then quantity. So I'm okay with some hand curation from them.

by crsv 9y ago

ben_w 9y ago

UK news probably doesn’t provide much insight by way of timing; 98% is Brexit related now, even reader reviews of books published ten years ago — the rest is blessed relief that is often rapidly overcome with more Brexit.

freeflight 9y ago

> Anyone that thinks that Twitch isn't turning in to a soft-core cam girls site can just load the IRL section of Twitch and see for themselves. And it's not even like anybody is trying to hide it, the Patreon's of many of these Streamers involve rewards like "Private lewd pictures" and their "gaming" often boils down to a video of a game being played in a small corner of the screen or simply playing rhythm/dance games. Some of these Streamers advertise the fact they work as strippers/dancers in some place, it's a really weird combination of gaming and cam-girl culture. Imho it's kinda exploitive considering how it combines two of the things young males in puberty just love to do and plays on them very heavily.

mschuster91 9y ago
I dont see what's exploitive on young males there. Older generations have had Playboys from the gas station and dad's VHS collection (or if they knew someone, their own), my generation had emule, Us porn sites and prepaid CCs, the new generation has patreon and camgirls.
- hateduser2 9y ago
  They try to emotionally manipulate their viewers into donating to them. Or they try to form a real bond. There’s some clear mix of genuine value for the lonely donators and id assume emotional abuse on the part of the streamers.
  - lwkl 9y ago
    I had to laugh if showing some cleavage, saying thank you or talking to you is emotional manipulation or even abuse. Maybe there is really some truth to the lonely nerd. It's probably just people stuck in their teens or teenagers. It's exactly like the teenage girls loving some star they never met and thinking they'll get married and all. The more I read and think about it the more I'm asking myself how there can such an outrage about it.
    - hateduser2 9y ago
      Taking advantage of an emotionally vulnerable person, or as you put it "showing some cleavage, saying thank you or talking to you" is abusive. Just because you trivialize it (which you should feel ashamed for doing, very harmful attitude) doesn't mean its not abusive or wrong.
      - Bendingo 9y ago
        > "... or talking to you" is abusive Please tell me you're kidding.
        hateduser2 9y ago
        Are you a Russian trollbot? I just read your comment history. The agenda seems to be: 1) disrupt empathy/modern thought on mental issues 2) promote Russia 3) demean the US You literally wrote you were in awe of Russia’s builders and that the US is at fault for North Korea. Wtf????
    - freeflight 9y ago

didibus 9y ago

Interesting, I watch a lot of IRL, in fact I got back into twitch because of it. I follow sketch artists, someone who live streams their travels around the world, a DJ doing live shows, a talented body painter that does super-hero shorts, etc. Maybe I'm just really good now at the mental filtering of Internet, but it wasn't hard for me to find the interesting content. That said, I can understand that it could over time degenerate, and Twitch will need to keep up quality. I think for Twitch, quality is more important then quantity. So I'm okay with some hand curation from them.