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NASA actually has enough money. SpaceX Falcon 9 FT (mostly re-usable) 50,000 lbs to low earth orbit (LEO) Cost: Substantially less than $62M with re-usablity
by valuearb 9y ago
NASA actually has enough money.
SpaceX Falcon 9 FT (mostly re-usable)
50,000 lbs to low earth orbit (LEO)
Cost: Substantially less than $62M with re-usablity
SpaceX Falcon Heavy (mostly re-usable)
140,000 lbs to LEO
Cost: $90M
Blue Origin New Glenn (mostly re-usable)
100,000 lbs to LEO
Cost: expected under $100M.
SpaceX BFR (fully re-usable)
330,000 lbs to LEO
Cost: Expected less than Falcon 9
NASA SLS (Space Launch System) (disposable, destroyed every launch)
Block 1 (2020): 150,000 lbs to LEO
Block 1B (2022): 230,000 lbs to LEO
Block 2 (2029): 290,000 lbs to LEO
Cost: $500M+ per launch
$1B+ a year in operational costs (for 1-2 launches a year)
$20B+ in developmental costs
NASA is blowing at least $3B a year paying Boeing and other contractors to build the SLS when far cheaper alternatives are either available or imminent. The cost of your Lunar or Mars exploration program is directly determined by your launch costs, and Congress has forced NASA to choose the most expensive possible launch system. Because it's built in Alabama. Using commercial launch capacity to operate the manned space program would not only free up billions a year, but accelerate it (the SLS won't be carrying humans until mid 2022 at the earliest).
$3B a year could pay for a half dozen to a dozen Falcon Heavy manned launches a year with capsules, support, everything, starting in late 2019. They could be used to assemble lunar and mars size transit ships in orbit, and actually send people to the moon and mars before 2022. It could also pay for as many as six huge interplanetary robotic probes, every year. We could re-visit every planet yearly with ever more capable scientific instruments. Or a combination of the manned and robotic plans.
But instead, the huge flow of money keeps the congressional delegation in Alabama secure in their seats, while crushing the dream of any actual NASA manned space program to the moon or mars ever. The SLS has missed every schedule date, and it's really unlikely congress is going to fully fund the program when the SLS is working. And the SLS spending is gutting actually super cost effective robotic probe spending.
Even if funded, NASA's plan never has more than 2 launches per year, and it's first Mars launch is planned for 2033. If nothing else ever slips.
- greglindahl 9y agoYour numbers are not quite right because you're mixing up the "let's expend the rocket" payload with the "let's not expend the rocket" prices for F9 and FH.
- valuearb 9y agoNope, the F9 expendable price was $63M before it was ever re-usable. They just haven't cut prices from re-usability (yet). The FH price is actually unclear, but it appears it won't have an expendable version. It's got too much payload capacity as re-usable. But again, it doesn't make much difference. SpaceX will definitely put a pound of cargo in orbit for less than 1/10th the cost of the SLS and may as little as 1/20th the cost. In any rational world, you'd rather launch your space vehicle in two parts and mate them in orbit than spend over 10x as much to launch your vehicle already assembled. But in reality, the SLS won't be able to launch interplanetary space vehicles in a single launch. Like Apollo, even their Lunar transports will need some in-space assembly. And if BFR is actually built and fully re-usable, the cost for 300,000+ lb payloads is going to be less than the cost of a Falcon 9.
- greglindahl 9y agoThe current price list for F9 on the SpaceX website is $62mm for up to 5.5 mT to GTO. The expendable performance is 8.3 mT up to GTO. The price for that launch is not given, but it's likely more than the FH $90mm up-to-8.0 mT to GTO launch price. And again, FH doesn't have a price given for > 8.0 mT to GTO. http://www.spacex.com/about/capabilities http://www.spacex.com/about/capabilities. I totally agree that it doesn't make much difference to your argument. However, it wouldn't cost you anything to say the actual numbers published by SpaceX on their website.