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Whenever one needs to quantify using unquantifiable words like "important but past a certain point" it is helpful to solve that point at the limit. Pacifists,

Whenever one needs to quantify using unquantifiable words like "important but past a certain point" it is helpful to solve that point at the limit. Pacifists, for example, will refuse to kill someone who is pointing a gun at their family because of their, in my not humble opinion, stupid beliefs. I may think their beliefs are stupid but I cannot say that they themselves are full of crap because, after all, they live their beliefs. The people who are making claims that money is not the only mandatory thing and everything else is optional nice to have thing(s) tend to weasel out of the lets solve for money being zero ( or minimum wage ). Unfortunately, while pacifists do not disrupt my life (when their world collides with reality, they die and their ideas die with them ) the people who are claiming that conferences are more important than $$ disrupt my market. This means that my goal is to illustrate as much as possible how silly their positions are.

BeetleB 9y ago
>The people who are making claims that money is not the only mandatory thing and everything else is optional nice to have thing(s) tend to weasel out of the lets solve for money being zero ( or minimum wage ). Except it wasn't his claim. The claim is pretty well known: Below a certain threshold, money is the most important thing. Above it, it is not. This is very different from the extreme pacifist mindset. The equivalent would be: "There are certain circumstances where it is important to kill another. Outside of those circumstances, it should not be the primary means." As an aside: Telling people what is important to them and ignoring their own claims on what is important to them will not make you many friends.
- notyourday 9y ago
  > The claim is pretty well known: Below a certain threshold, money is the most important thing. Above it, it is not. This is very different from the extreme pacifist mindset. The equivalent would be: "There are certain circumstances where it is important to kill another. Outside of those circumstances, it should not be the primary means." The claim is horse manure which is why it includes no numbers for the threshold. My number matched his claim. Except that the claim is not what was meant. What was meant is "if I'm compensated well into six figures then the other things matter more than incremental dollar". The article is describing how to peddle low salaries + magic pixie dust as a way to swindle the candidates to accept non-competitive offers. > Telling people what is important to them and ignoring their own claims on what is important to them will not make you many friends. That's ok. I do not need many friends. Especially if I have to accept as friends those that claim 'oh, it is excellent' when in reality they mean something else.
  - BeetleB 9y ago
    >The claim is horse manure which is why it includes no numbers for the threshold. Attribution of intention is a common step towards the breakdown of dialogue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribution_bias#Types https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribution_bias#Types >That's ok. I do not need many friends. OK, perhaps I was too narrow in my statement. Let me rephrase: Telling people what is important to them and ignoring their own claims on what is important to them will not get you fruitful conversations. Which is likely why people are downvoting you instead of replying to you. You are giving strong signals of poor communications, and people are not finding it worthwhile to engage with you.
    - notyourday 9y ago
      Well, based on the + of the post, it seems not to be the case. Also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes
  - FreakLegion 9y ago
    > The claim is horse manure which is why it includes no numbers for the threshold. There's no absolute threshold. It's relative. I recently left one job for another that paid less than half as much. Things is, both were well into six figures, so the difference doesn't mean much to me. Still, if the old job had paid into seven figures instead of "just" six, I wouldn't have left. It was a boring, easy job, but not intolerable. At seven figures, I would've ridden that horse into the ground.

BeetleB 9y ago

>The people who are making claims that money is not the only mandatory thing and everything else is optional nice to have thing(s) tend to weasel out of the lets solve for money being zero ( or minimum wage ). Except it wasn't his claim. The claim is pretty well known: Below a certain threshold, money is the most important thing. Above it, it is not. This is very different from the extreme pacifist mindset. The equivalent would be: "There are certain circumstances where it is important to kill another. Outside of those circumstances, it should not be the primary means." As an aside: Telling people what is important to them and ignoring their own claims on what is important to them will not make you many friends.

notyourday 9y ago
> The claim is pretty well known: Below a certain threshold, money is the most important thing. Above it, it is not. This is very different from the extreme pacifist mindset. The equivalent would be: "There are certain circumstances where it is important to kill another. Outside of those circumstances, it should not be the primary means." The claim is horse manure which is why it includes no numbers for the threshold. My number matched his claim. Except that the claim is not what was meant. What was meant is "if I'm compensated well into six figures then the other things matter more than incremental dollar". The article is describing how to peddle low salaries + magic pixie dust as a way to swindle the candidates to accept non-competitive offers. > Telling people what is important to them and ignoring their own claims on what is important to them will not make you many friends. That's ok. I do not need many friends. Especially if I have to accept as friends those that claim 'oh, it is excellent' when in reality they mean something else.
- BeetleB 9y ago
  >The claim is horse manure which is why it includes no numbers for the threshold. Attribution of intention is a common step towards the breakdown of dialogue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribution_bias#Types https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribution_bias#Types >That's ok. I do not need many friends. OK, perhaps I was too narrow in my statement. Let me rephrase: Telling people what is important to them and ignoring their own claims on what is important to them will not get you fruitful conversations. Which is likely why people are downvoting you instead of replying to you. You are giving strong signals of poor communications, and people are not finding it worthwhile to engage with you.
  - notyourday 9y ago
    Well, based on the + of the post, it seems not to be the case. Also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes
- FreakLegion 9y ago
  > The claim is horse manure which is why it includes no numbers for the threshold. There's no absolute threshold. It's relative. I recently left one job for another that paid less than half as much. Things is, both were well into six figures, so the difference doesn't mean much to me. Still, if the old job had paid into seven figures instead of "just" six, I wouldn't have left. It was a boring, easy job, but not intolerable. At seven figures, I would've ridden that horse into the ground.