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Thanks, Ctulhu, for looking out for the common man. :) On-topic: Workers' rights have taken a backseat due to aggressive lobbying for several decades, not leas

Thanks, Ctulhu, for looking out for the common man. :) On-topic: Workers' rights have taken a backseat due to aggressive lobbying for several decades, not least in the US. Even in countries with very strong socialist foundations unions are hollowed out to the point where entire fields like IT feel like they have no use for them. Sweden is a good example: IT professionals are sought after to the point where they currently (rightly) feel like they have no use for unions, but when they turn out to be the new factory workers they won't have an already established base to unionize on. Maybe I'm silly to worry, but I feel like this is all a pretty big mistake.

walshemj 9y ago
Maybe that's because the Swedish unions did not historically unionize as much in the M&P area.
zxd1098 9y ago
Are you actually advocating for socialism on a site centered around VC-funded tech companies that absolutely couldn’t exist in a socialist country? Awesome.
- taohansen 9y ago
  VC-backed companies do exist in socialist countries (i’m from Denmark). maybe it’s all time Hacker News readers did start arguing for socialism: self-obsession exists now in more abundance than ever and capitalism is doing everything it can to broaden the cloak of its dreadful shadow
  - zxd1098 9y ago
    I guess my point is, the socialist movement in the USA seems to favor things like taxing income over 1MM USD at 90ish percent. At that point, what would possibly be the point of risking a 1MM investment to only make 10% if the company doubled in value?
    - Saavedro 9y ago
      Our system is already structured in a way to incentivize actually reinvesting and doing stuff with that money instead of adding it to one's personal hoard -- think that but enough to actually be effective
- EliRivers 9y ago
  Socialism and unions aren't the same thing. You can have unions without socialism, and socialism without unions.

walshemj 9y ago

Maybe that's because the Swedish unions did not historically unionize as much in the M&P area.

zxd1098 9y ago

Are you actually advocating for socialism on a site centered around VC-funded tech companies that absolutely couldn’t exist in a socialist country? Awesome.

taohansen 9y ago
VC-backed companies do exist in socialist countries (i’m from Denmark). maybe it’s all time Hacker News readers did start arguing for socialism: self-obsession exists now in more abundance than ever and capitalism is doing everything it can to broaden the cloak of its dreadful shadow
- zxd1098 9y ago
  I guess my point is, the socialist movement in the USA seems to favor things like taxing income over 1MM USD at 90ish percent. At that point, what would possibly be the point of risking a 1MM investment to only make 10% if the company doubled in value?
  - Saavedro 9y ago
    Our system is already structured in a way to incentivize actually reinvesting and doing stuff with that money instead of adding it to one's personal hoard -- think that but enough to actually be effective
EliRivers 9y ago
Socialism and unions aren't the same thing. You can have unions without socialism, and socialism without unions.