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I terminated music downloads in about 2009 - right about when Spotify came out. I do frequently use the offline playlists feature, however.

paulie_a 9y ago
So you still download music then.
dzhiurgis 9y ago
How do you tolerate 192kbps?
- Yetanfou 9y ago
  Really? - how do you 'tolerate' driving over less than perfectly flat roads? - how do you 'tolerate' looking through a window which was cleaned more than half an hour ago? - how do you 'tolerate' using last year's PC? - how do you 'tolerate' linving in less than a full democracy? - how do you 'tolerate' ... well, anything 'less than perfect'? 192 Kbps is perfectly usable for most occasions. You're not going to hear the difference while listening in a car, using a pair of 'less than perfect' headphones, in a noisy environment. If you want to listen to music with high dynamic variations in ideal listening conditions you might want to use something better but that's about it.
  - dzhiurgis 9y ago
    In all of those cases I have no choice. I do, however, have a choice for listening using high-end system while most headphones and cars make no difference in fidelity. Then there is problem of fragmentation. Far from all artists use same network, so you'll end up paying for multiple services to get the same thing.
    - Yetanfou 9y ago
      There is no fragmentation if you insist on getting downloadable content. Storage is cheap, get your own server and stuff it with your music. Install a streaming server (something like Subsonic/Madsonic/etc comes to mind, mpd also works when configured correctly) and point your devices at it.
- Reason077 9y ago
  Spotify's high quality streaming mode (enabled in settings) is actually 320kbps. Apparently they've been testing a lossless mode for some users recently, too. I haven't seen it available to me in the UK yet, however.
- kuzimoto 9y ago
  Isn't 192 considered transparent?
khedoros1 9y ago
And...I've never used Spotify. I've used Pandora a few times. But generally, if it's music I'm willing to pay to listen to, I want to pay once, and either download the tracks or rip the disk. Stick the files where I need 'em.

paulie_a 9y ago

So you still download music then.

dzhiurgis 9y ago

How do you tolerate 192kbps?

Yetanfou 9y ago
Really? - how do you 'tolerate' driving over less than perfectly flat roads? - how do you 'tolerate' looking through a window which was cleaned more than half an hour ago? - how do you 'tolerate' using last year's PC? - how do you 'tolerate' linving in less than a full democracy? - how do you 'tolerate' ... well, anything 'less than perfect'? 192 Kbps is perfectly usable for most occasions. You're not going to hear the difference while listening in a car, using a pair of 'less than perfect' headphones, in a noisy environment. If you want to listen to music with high dynamic variations in ideal listening conditions you might want to use something better but that's about it.
- dzhiurgis 9y ago
  In all of those cases I have no choice. I do, however, have a choice for listening using high-end system while most headphones and cars make no difference in fidelity. Then there is problem of fragmentation. Far from all artists use same network, so you'll end up paying for multiple services to get the same thing.
  - Yetanfou 9y ago
    There is no fragmentation if you insist on getting downloadable content. Storage is cheap, get your own server and stuff it with your music. Install a streaming server (something like Subsonic/Madsonic/etc comes to mind, mpd also works when configured correctly) and point your devices at it.
Reason077 9y ago
Spotify's high quality streaming mode (enabled in settings) is actually 320kbps. Apparently they've been testing a lossless mode for some users recently, too. I haven't seen it available to me in the UK yet, however.
kuzimoto 9y ago
Isn't 192 considered transparent?

khedoros1 9y ago

And...I've never used Spotify. I've used Pandora a few times. But generally, if it's music I'm willing to pay to listen to, I want to pay once, and either download the tracks or rip the disk. Stick the files where I need 'em.