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Part of me thinks the the anti-Facebook media sentiment is because Facebook replaced newspapers/magazines as the highly profitable media aggregator. Old media s

by vm 9y ago

Part of me thinks the the anti-Facebook media sentiment is because Facebook replaced newspapers/magazines as the highly profitable media aggregator. Old media struggles for relevance and lashes out at Facebook, the new winner. Facebook makes fantastic communications tool and gives them away for a whopping $0. I love staying aware of what's going on with my grandparents, old classmates, friends, and family, AND not having to directly pay money for this. I would love to hear other perspectives. EDIT: Downvote away, but my point is that people pick on Facebook for privacy concerns but we all know it's an advertising company (probably the best the world has ever seen). It also operates the best communications tools the world has ever seen and it doesn't get enough credit for that. In 2006, the News Feed was publicly bemoaned because of privacy issues and it's now the core product. Facebook has built great tools over time, even when people didn't initially agree. Not trying to incite anger, just pushing toward a debate.

659087 9y ago
> I would love to hear other perspectives. You are hearing other perspectives. You've just chosen to write them off as "the evil media being angry that Facebook is replacing them and lashing out".
- tspike 9y ago
  His replies are all embracing the points of view offered in reply. This is unnecessarily hostile.
eveningcoffee 9y ago
Facebook wants to be in the middle of every communication. Giving a single entity such power is simply too much.
brian-armstrong 9y ago
This post is akin to calling Malboro 'the greatest supplements company ever created' in 1970
- vm 9y ago
  You're implying that Facebook is addictive and, yeah, that seems to be the case. Good point.
- p10_user 9y ago
  That’s an extreme comparison - there’s no such thing as a healthy level of cigarette consumption while there is for social media (at least a non-harmful level).
Moru 9y ago
All I know is that Facebook was started as a way of enforcing the picking-order of the local school. Ofcourse it grew, from the same reason kids still to this day gets bullied in school. It's just got legalized by the grownup community. And then we wonder why kids are getting burned out before they even start working? As a bullied kid I already saw what facebook was from the start so I never created an account and cringe every time I see it mentioned on the news.
- vm 9y ago
  Damn. Sorry to hear. FB wasn't around when I was in grade school. I hope they make tools to clamp down on bullying. And that people act better, regardless.
nkkollaw 9y ago
> Facebook makes fantastic communications tool and gives them away for a whopping $0. In exchange for your personal data (at levels not known by most people) > love staying aware of what's going on with my grandparents, old classmates, friends, and family, AND not having to directly pay money for this. As one becomes more dependant on it for communicating, they can do worse and worse things and it'll be harder and harder to say no.
- vm 9y ago
  > As one becomes more dependant on it for communicating, they can do worse and worse things and it'll be harder and harder to say no. Yeah, that explains why younger generations care less about data privacy. Already the convenience is hard to beat.
- eveningcoffee 9y ago
  >> Facebook makes fantastic communications tool and gives them away for a whopping $0. In exchange for your personal data (at levels not known by most people) In the longer term you are not giving up your privacy but your freedom (assuming Facebook becomes dominant middleman for the information) with who you communicate and about what topic.
  - trophycase 9y ago
    And subjecting yourself to personally tailored brainwash to buy garbage you don't need all while wasting your time and making yourself unhappy.
username223 9y ago
> ... my point is that people pick on Facebook for privacy concerns but we all know it's an advertising company ... More accurately, it's a surveillance company (with some behavioral testing and manipulation as well), and ads are just the best way to monetize information for now. As ad blockers and banner blindness become more common, they'll find another, probably worse, way to monetize that information, like pre-interview employee screening or pseudo-credit-scores. Also, unlike Google, which at least built an innovative search engine back in the day (remember Lycos, Alta Vista, and "portals?"), I can't think of anything particularly novel or valuable created by Facebook.

by vm 9y ago

659087 9y ago

> I would love to hear other perspectives. You are hearing other perspectives. You've just chosen to write them off as "the evil media being angry that Facebook is replacing them and lashing out".

tspike 9y ago
His replies are all embracing the points of view offered in reply. This is unnecessarily hostile.

eveningcoffee 9y ago

Facebook wants to be in the middle of every communication. Giving a single entity such power is simply too much.

brian-armstrong 9y ago

This post is akin to calling Malboro 'the greatest supplements company ever created' in 1970

vm 9y ago
You're implying that Facebook is addictive and, yeah, that seems to be the case. Good point.
p10_user 9y ago
That’s an extreme comparison - there’s no such thing as a healthy level of cigarette consumption while there is for social media (at least a non-harmful level).

Moru 9y ago

All I know is that Facebook was started as a way of enforcing the picking-order of the local school. Ofcourse it grew, from the same reason kids still to this day gets bullied in school. It's just got legalized by the grownup community. And then we wonder why kids are getting burned out before they even start working? As a bullied kid I already saw what facebook was from the start so I never created an account and cringe every time I see it mentioned on the news.

vm 9y ago
Damn. Sorry to hear. FB wasn't around when I was in grade school. I hope they make tools to clamp down on bullying. And that people act better, regardless.

nkkollaw 9y ago

> Facebook makes fantastic communications tool and gives them away for a whopping $0. In exchange for your personal data (at levels not known by most people) > love staying aware of what's going on with my grandparents, old classmates, friends, and family, AND not having to directly pay money for this. As one becomes more dependant on it for communicating, they can do worse and worse things and it'll be harder and harder to say no.

vm 9y ago
> As one becomes more dependant on it for communicating, they can do worse and worse things and it'll be harder and harder to say no. Yeah, that explains why younger generations care less about data privacy. Already the convenience is hard to beat.
eveningcoffee 9y ago
>> Facebook makes fantastic communications tool and gives them away for a whopping $0. In exchange for your personal data (at levels not known by most people) In the longer term you are not giving up your privacy but your freedom (assuming Facebook becomes dominant middleman for the information) with who you communicate and about what topic.
- trophycase 9y ago
  And subjecting yourself to personally tailored brainwash to buy garbage you don't need all while wasting your time and making yourself unhappy.

username223 9y ago

> ... my point is that people pick on Facebook for privacy concerns but we all know it's an advertising company ... More accurately, it's a surveillance company (with some behavioral testing and manipulation as well), and ads are just the best way to monetize information for now. As ad blockers and banner blindness become more common, they'll find another, probably worse, way to monetize that information, like pre-interview employee screening or pseudo-credit-scores. Also, unlike Google, which at least built an innovative search engine back in the day (remember Lycos, Alta Vista, and "portals?"), I can't think of anything particularly novel or valuable created by Facebook.