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Here's the article I was thinking of when I wrote that: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/phys-ed-why-doesnt-exercise-lead-to-weight-loss/ http://well.b

Here's the article I was thinking of when I wrote that: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/phys-ed-why-doesnt-exercise-lead-to-weight-loss/ http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/phys-ed-why-doesnt-...

KirinDave 16y ago
I read the abstract. How does that imply we shouldn't exercise? It just says that obese people are impaired in their ability to burn fat, which is part of a negative feedback in their lifestyle. If the argument was that exercise alone is sufficient with a totally unrestricted calorie intake, that'd be a good rebuttal. But I don't think anyone has claimed that so far.
- msluyter 16y ago
  I'm not arguing that you shouldn't exercise, merely that it probably takes more than exercise alone to lose weight. There are many other great reasons to exercise.
- rsheridan6 16y ago
  Here's a popular press article that addresses this: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1914857,00.html http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1914857,00.ht... I wonder if it's not more about willpower than appetite. Once you've used your willpower to get yourself to workout, maybe you don't have any left to resist bad food. Unless you're one of those lucky people who actually likes working out.
  - eru 16y ago
    I don't have to will myself to work out. But then, I don't do hours of cardio in the gym, that would really require willpower for me.
    - jules 16y ago
      Try cardio outside. Pick a route of the length you want to run and run it. Running in a gym constantly requires willpower to go on, especially when you're getting tired. Running outside only requires to start, but when you're getting tired you are away from your house so you don't really have a choice. Also: fresh air, better temperatures, quiet and better scenery. I run several times a week and it requires almost no willpower, whereas I would definitely not have the willpower to run for an hour on a treadmill even once.
    - robryan 16y ago
      Depends if you go along to the gym with people you know or just by yourself. Having a chat seems to pass the time well enough for me at the gym. That said I've been getting back into bike riding outdoors recently which can be a lot more fun.
      - eru 16y ago
        I am hitting the gym with a friend to do weight lifting. That's OK. For cardio I prefer the outdoors, like you do.
    - whatusername 16y ago
      Look at Interval Training / HIIT / Fartleks -- you shouldn't be doing hours of cardio in a gym for weight loss. And look at doing Resistance training before you do those.. (Basically -- Alwyn Cosgrove's hierarchy is probably the best guide: http://alwyncosgrove.com/2010/01/hierarchy-of-fat-loss/ http://alwyncosgrove.com/2010/01/hierarchy-of-fat-loss/ ) Long hours of cardio are what you do when you a) Really enjoy it and b) Have time. If it's a nice day - go for a bike ride or a run... but if you're stuck inside in the gym - optimise your time.
      - eru 16y ago
        I do weight lifting in a gym, and sometimes running (and more often) biking outside.
        16y ago

KirinDave 16y ago

I read the abstract. How does that imply we shouldn't exercise? It just says that obese people are impaired in their ability to burn fat, which is part of a negative feedback in their lifestyle. If the argument was that exercise alone is sufficient with a totally unrestricted calorie intake, that'd be a good rebuttal. But I don't think anyone has claimed that so far.

msluyter 16y ago
I'm not arguing that you shouldn't exercise, merely that it probably takes more than exercise alone to lose weight. There are many other great reasons to exercise.
rsheridan6 16y ago
Here's a popular press article that addresses this: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1914857,00.html http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1914857,00.ht... I wonder if it's not more about willpower than appetite. Once you've used your willpower to get yourself to workout, maybe you don't have any left to resist bad food. Unless you're one of those lucky people who actually likes working out.
- eru 16y ago
  I don't have to will myself to work out. But then, I don't do hours of cardio in the gym, that would really require willpower for me.
  - jules 16y ago
    Try cardio outside. Pick a route of the length you want to run and run it. Running in a gym constantly requires willpower to go on, especially when you're getting tired. Running outside only requires to start, but when you're getting tired you are away from your house so you don't really have a choice. Also: fresh air, better temperatures, quiet and better scenery. I run several times a week and it requires almost no willpower, whereas I would definitely not have the willpower to run for an hour on a treadmill even once.
  - robryan 16y ago
    Depends if you go along to the gym with people you know or just by yourself. Having a chat seems to pass the time well enough for me at the gym. That said I've been getting back into bike riding outdoors recently which can be a lot more fun.
    - eru 16y ago
      I am hitting the gym with a friend to do weight lifting. That's OK. For cardio I prefer the outdoors, like you do.
  - whatusername 16y ago
    Look at Interval Training / HIIT / Fartleks -- you shouldn't be doing hours of cardio in a gym for weight loss. And look at doing Resistance training before you do those.. (Basically -- Alwyn Cosgrove's hierarchy is probably the best guide: http://alwyncosgrove.com/2010/01/hierarchy-of-fat-loss/ http://alwyncosgrove.com/2010/01/hierarchy-of-fat-loss/ ) Long hours of cardio are what you do when you a) Really enjoy it and b) Have time. If it's a nice day - go for a bike ride or a run... but if you're stuck inside in the gym - optimise your time.
    - eru 16y ago
      I do weight lifting in a gym, and sometimes running (and more often) biking outside.
      - 16y ago