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Thanks for your answers. If you don't mind me asking, how is that model working for you? It's not that I am cheap of anything like that, but somehow I am put of

Thanks for your answers. If you don't mind me asking, how is that model working for you? It's not that I am cheap of anything like that, but somehow I am put off by that model in a web framework. Maybe it's due to an abundance of pretty good free ones out there, since I'd never be put off by any other middleware that is not web oriented. Weird, I know.

asnyder 16y ago
That's a good question, one that we'll be answering in a detailed blog post later in the summer. In short, there is push back from many that would like a free and open-source product, but there's also acceptance from many seasoned developers and development shops that understand that a tool with NOLOH's feature set takes a significant amount of time and money to develop, test, and support. The truth of the matter is that unfortunately, our competitive advantage lies within our code and the significant R&D we've done over the years. We're also not at the stage where we could fend off a larger more well known framework from integrating our technology into their core if we did open it. Many of our users feel that NOLOH easily pays for itself in its first day of use. We also provide unparalleled development support in addition to constant updates and new features. I'm always surprised by those that will hem and haw over something that's not open-source. We spent the past six years of our lives and significant financial resources developing the technology. As stated in a comment below, we open-source everything not related to the core, and are even working on legalese to ensure that if anything happens to us, the core would be opened. My personal opinion is that if you value your time NOLOH is definitely a great tool to have in your development toolbox. I personally wouldn't do any web development without it.
- Keyframe 16y ago
  I'm always surprised by those that will hem and haw over something that's not open-source. I'm the first one that initially doesn't care if the tool is right. It's just something weird about web middlewares. Maybe we got spoiled by the abundance of good free solutions. I'd never reason about game engine middleware for example. You've put in a lot of hard work and I hope it pays you off. Good luck!
- ReinH 16y ago
  "I'm always surprised by those that will hem and haw over something that's not open-source." Open source has its place, as does proprietary software. Hemming and hawing aside, your market votes with their feet -- and that's exactly how you'll find out if you're properly situated. That said, can you please not turn a post about Fun into a marketing platform for NOLOH? Fun may be fun, but your elevator pitch definitely isn't.
  - asnyder 16y ago
    As you can see from my initial comment I was just pointing out similar functionality in NOLOH that can be done right now. Others replied with questions to which I answered. There's nothing wrong with that, it's a natural part of Hacker News. As you can see from some of the other posts, other technologies were mentioned too. Since you just created your HN account you should know that HN is more about discussion than anything else.

asnyder 16y ago

That's a good question, one that we'll be answering in a detailed blog post later in the summer. In short, there is push back from many that would like a free and open-source product, but there's also acceptance from many seasoned developers and development shops that understand that a tool with NOLOH's feature set takes a significant amount of time and money to develop, test, and support. The truth of the matter is that unfortunately, our competitive advantage lies within our code and the significant R&D we've done over the years. We're also not at the stage where we could fend off a larger more well known framework from integrating our technology into their core if we did open it. Many of our users feel that NOLOH easily pays for itself in its first day of use. We also provide unparalleled development support in addition to constant updates and new features. I'm always surprised by those that will hem and haw over something that's not open-source. We spent the past six years of our lives and significant financial resources developing the technology. As stated in a comment below, we open-source everything not related to the core, and are even working on legalese to ensure that if anything happens to us, the core would be opened. My personal opinion is that if you value your time NOLOH is definitely a great tool to have in your development toolbox. I personally wouldn't do any web development without it.

Keyframe 16y ago
I'm always surprised by those that will hem and haw over something that's not open-source. I'm the first one that initially doesn't care if the tool is right. It's just something weird about web middlewares. Maybe we got spoiled by the abundance of good free solutions. I'd never reason about game engine middleware for example. You've put in a lot of hard work and I hope it pays you off. Good luck!
ReinH 16y ago
"I'm always surprised by those that will hem and haw over something that's not open-source." Open source has its place, as does proprietary software. Hemming and hawing aside, your market votes with their feet -- and that's exactly how you'll find out if you're properly situated. That said, can you please not turn a post about Fun into a marketing platform for NOLOH? Fun may be fun, but your elevator pitch definitely isn't.
- asnyder 16y ago
  As you can see from my initial comment I was just pointing out similar functionality in NOLOH that can be done right now. Others replied with questions to which I answered. There's nothing wrong with that, it's a natural part of Hacker News. As you can see from some of the other posts, other technologies were mentioned too. Since you just created your HN account you should know that HN is more about discussion than anything else.