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> No older person is benefiting from having to dig through trash for bottles to recycle for nickels. Agreed. But I think we are squandering the wealth of exper

by ci5er 9y ago

> No older person is benefiting from having to dig through trash for bottles to recycle for nickels. Agreed. But I think we are squandering the wealth of experience that old people can bring to the work-place by essentially aging them out. They have something to offer - and we need it - and (in Japan) the safety net, it ain't so safe! EDIT: I lived in Japan a long time, but I realized (at some point), that no matter how much I payed into the retirement system, as a retiree, I would lose my visa and be kicked out (just the way it is). So I moved "back home", so that I would have the opportunity to work until I die.

g09980 9y ago
> I would lose my visa and be kicked out It has been awhile since I researched this, but is becoming a permanent resident after 10 years the way to avoid that?
- ci5er 9y ago
  I have the right to permanent residency (by marriage, by work, by children, by investment), but that's not the same as being a citizen. Which is its own thing to go through (I know people who have - but it's tough). By law (although behaviors are changing in contrary ways to the law), I am not even allowed to sign a contract. Say - movie rental. Without a sponsor - I can not (legally) rent a movie. Now, I know, practically, I can. But not legally (with the full power of the courts behind the video shop if I fail to return a VHS tape). What does that mean? It means that I can not and should not expect that the Japanese retirement system that I have spent decades paying into would necessarily consider it their obligation to fund my retirement. Is this changing? Yes, it is. Slowly. Do I want to wait for it? No - I do not. I would rather leave and become independently safe (monied) and return to Japan (because I love it) when my own ability to fund myself is in my own hands.
Noos 9y ago
The wealth of experience scrubbing bathroom floors, I guess. Most of the work this article tells about, and blue collar work in general, is not self-actualizing nor really will make use of a wealth of experience as opposed to a strong back.

by ci5er 9y ago

g09980 9y ago

> I would lose my visa and be kicked out It has been awhile since I researched this, but is becoming a permanent resident after 10 years the way to avoid that?

ci5er 9y ago
I have the right to permanent residency (by marriage, by work, by children, by investment), but that's not the same as being a citizen. Which is its own thing to go through (I know people who have - but it's tough). By law (although behaviors are changing in contrary ways to the law), I am not even allowed to sign a contract. Say - movie rental. Without a sponsor - I can not (legally) rent a movie. Now, I know, practically, I can. But not legally (with the full power of the courts behind the video shop if I fail to return a VHS tape). What does that mean? It means that I can not and should not expect that the Japanese retirement system that I have spent decades paying into would necessarily consider it their obligation to fund my retirement. Is this changing? Yes, it is. Slowly. Do I want to wait for it? No - I do not. I would rather leave and become independently safe (monied) and return to Japan (because I love it) when my own ability to fund myself is in my own hands.

Noos 9y ago

The wealth of experience scrubbing bathroom floors, I guess. Most of the work this article tells about, and blue collar work in general, is not self-actualizing nor really will make use of a wealth of experience as opposed to a strong back.