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It's not about locking features to paying users only. It's about making new features that have enough value to you that you want to pay to use them. Take the e

by nglgzz 9y ago

It's not about locking features to paying users only. It's about making new features that have enough value to you that you want to pay to use them. Take the example from the white paper (paid help from experts), I don't get how you'd feel exploited that way, since it's not even related to contributions.

y4mi 9y ago
not the parent, but wouldn't contribute on a website that a) gets its content solely from its users and b) locks features away behind a paywall especially if it's for learning. But to each his own and you cannot please everyone. Don't feel discouraged and keep going. The product looks pretty good. ( your simile with wikipedia breaks apart on the b btw, thats why nobody minds it there )
- nikivi 9y ago
  This is just an idea. As we are still not sure what the best way to support this project financially is. The other option would be to use advertisements but we feel that would actually not help with our goals of providing the best resources available as sponsored content does not necessarily mean the best. For now, the only support we get is through Patreon but that currently does not cover the costs for the servers let alone justify the time commitment it takes to support the website with new features and improvements.
  - nileshtrivedi 9y ago
    So, make it a business. Don't try to be a business AND ask for voluntary contributions at the same time.
- nglgzz 9y ago
  You wouldn't contribute even if the locked features were unrelated to what you'd be contributing to?
  - echelon 9y ago
    Absolutely not. Why would I offer to build someone else's castle without reward? I'll gladly contribute to something everyone owns and has rights to, but under no circumstances will I do this for complete strangers that seek to capitalize upon my efforts. I only do that in exchange for a salary.
    - nikivi 9y ago
      Would you then also not contribute to Reddit? You are also contributing content to their website that they then use to serve other people ads. There is also Reddit Gold that you can buy to unlock some perks. The idea is the same for this website. Although we don't want to serve other people ads as we think there are better business models than that.
      - gitgud 9y ago
        Reddit (and others eg; Stackoverflow) has a reputation system. Basically, the incentive for contribution on those websites is to earn points of some kind. The idea may be the same, but I don't see any point system mentioned for contributors here. So why contribute?
        nikivi 9y ago
        We will have a reputation system for users in the future. As to why you may want to contribute. If you use the website and you find value in it, you can always make it better not only for yourself but for others. Only here, not only can you add links and resources but you can also directly add features and new things as the entire code base is Open Source and thus anyone can edit/fork and make what they want with it for all other people to enjoy.
    - nglgzz 9y ago
      I take it you don't use YouTube then. All their content is user generated, you get ads, they capitalize on your "efforts", and you have premium features that you can access only by paying (ie. YouTube Red).

by nglgzz 9y ago

y4mi 9y ago

not the parent, but wouldn't contribute on a website that a) gets its content solely from its users and b) locks features away behind a paywall especially if it's for learning. But to each his own and you cannot please everyone. Don't feel discouraged and keep going. The product looks pretty good. ( your simile with wikipedia breaks apart on the b btw, thats why nobody minds it there )

nikivi 9y ago
This is just an idea. As we are still not sure what the best way to support this project financially is. The other option would be to use advertisements but we feel that would actually not help with our goals of providing the best resources available as sponsored content does not necessarily mean the best. For now, the only support we get is through Patreon but that currently does not cover the costs for the servers let alone justify the time commitment it takes to support the website with new features and improvements.
- nileshtrivedi 9y ago
  So, make it a business. Don't try to be a business AND ask for voluntary contributions at the same time.
nglgzz 9y ago
You wouldn't contribute even if the locked features were unrelated to what you'd be contributing to?
- echelon 9y ago
  Absolutely not. Why would I offer to build someone else's castle without reward? I'll gladly contribute to something everyone owns and has rights to, but under no circumstances will I do this for complete strangers that seek to capitalize upon my efforts. I only do that in exchange for a salary.
  - nikivi 9y ago
    Would you then also not contribute to Reddit? You are also contributing content to their website that they then use to serve other people ads. There is also Reddit Gold that you can buy to unlock some perks. The idea is the same for this website. Although we don't want to serve other people ads as we think there are better business models than that.
    - gitgud 9y ago
      Reddit (and others eg; Stackoverflow) has a reputation system. Basically, the incentive for contribution on those websites is to earn points of some kind. The idea may be the same, but I don't see any point system mentioned for contributors here. So why contribute?
      - nikivi 9y ago
        We will have a reputation system for users in the future. As to why you may want to contribute. If you use the website and you find value in it, you can always make it better not only for yourself but for others. Only here, not only can you add links and resources but you can also directly add features and new things as the entire code base is Open Source and thus anyone can edit/fork and make what they want with it for all other people to enjoy.
  - nglgzz 9y ago
    I take it you don't use YouTube then. All their content is user generated, you get ads, they capitalize on your "efforts", and you have premium features that you can access only by paying (ie. YouTube Red).