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They also supported upstart but that was dropped in Stretch. We are left with systemd and System V init to provide /sbin/init. Debian still provides System V
by wicket 9y ago
They also supported upstart but that was dropped in Stretch. We are left with systemd and System V init to provide /sbin/init. Debian still provides System V init which itself works fine but other packages, many of which previously worked, have come to depend systemd only. This type of regression would not be acceptable in other projects but Debian has done nothing about it. I think they should stop pretending that Debian is still usable System V init and just drop the package altogether.
- icebraining 9y agoDebian officially supported Upstart until Stretch? That's news to me. Do you have a link?
- khedoros1 9y agoDebian at least provides documentation on using Upstart, either alone or alongside Systemd: https://wiki.debian.org/Upstart https://wiki.debian.org/Upstart I don't know whether that means it's "supported" or not.
- icebraining 9y agoBeing on the Debian Wiki doesn't mean much; there's a page for RPM too, but it was never a supported system on Debian.
- wicket 9y agohttps://tracker.debian.org/pkg/upstart https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/upstart
- icebraining 9y agoThe package existed, but as you pointed out regarding SysV, that doesn't mean it's actually supported. Was it?
- wicket 9y agoThat really depends on your definition of "supported". It does not form part of the base distribution, nor was there ever any paid support for it. A Debian developer built a deb package for it and added it to the "main" repository. Everything under "main" is normally considered to be part of the distribution. As you can see from the link I provided, the package was maintained for several years and received several updates until it was dropped for Stretch. That is exactly what I would expect from a supported package in Debian.
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