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How would you live with friends and not have your own space? Bunk up in the same room?That's just not done in the Western countries. In the past decades a usual

How would you live with friends and not have your own space? Bunk up in the same room?That's just not done in the Western countries. In the past decades a usual shared house would be a private room, often with a lock, in a house with a shared kitchen, lounge and bathroom(s). I also think you don't realise how a factory job did used to be a decent wage earner and you could have a whole other life on top of it. As far as I understand it, socialist worker parties, unions, etc. were all producing intellectuals, politicians, etc. from the late 1800s until the crackdowns in the 1980s. In the UK we are seeing calls to loosen laws around unions as the pendulum swung too far towards the owners of capital, I've recently read Peston's WTF[1] that was arguing it, Jeremy Corbyn is saying it, the idea is entering the main stream again. [1] Pretty good read on why Brexit happened, I don't agree with everything he says but worth a read if you want some insight into it https://www.amazon.com/WTF-GUARDIAN-POLITICAL-BOOK-YEAR-ebook/dp/B06XRK5JQ7/ https://www.amazon.com/WTF-GUARDIAN-POLITICAL-BOOK-YEAR-eboo...

watwut 9y ago
I know people who live like that in San Francisco - programmers. So yeah, it is done. Moreover, if you live with parents you typically have own room too. I read up quite a lot on German society prior/between wars and nope. Huge amount of very poor people. UK a bit less so, but undreclass definitelt existing. Where lack of privacy was least of their problems. Not sure if Poland count as west, but they had poverty too. So did Italian which counts definitely. Don't have such detailed books for America, but unions sis not happened to be real because of massive prosperity for everyone. Also, America had huge black population at the time that was very poor and unable to get good living even if they had jobs - and class of poor whites júst a bit better off then them. But yes, there was period of better prosperity in after WWII. That is when factory work was good. It still is better job then situation of poor prior and between those wars.

watwut 9y ago

I know people who live like that in San Francisco - programmers. So yeah, it is done. Moreover, if you live with parents you typically have own room too. I read up quite a lot on German society prior/between wars and nope. Huge amount of very poor people. UK a bit less so, but undreclass definitelt existing. Where lack of privacy was least of their problems. Not sure if Poland count as west, but they had poverty too. So did Italian which counts definitely. Don't have such detailed books for America, but unions sis not happened to be real because of massive prosperity for everyone. Also, America had huge black population at the time that was very poor and unable to get good living even if they had jobs - and class of poor whites júst a bit better off then them. But yes, there was period of better prosperity in after WWII. That is when factory work was good. It still is better job then situation of poor prior and between those wars.