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It's not about claiming here, it's about experiences. I guess we should open up a youtube channel for filming our most catastrophic experiences with systemd, be

• chris_wot 9y ago
  Would have been good if the author did this in the original article.
• lima 9y ago
  Let me tell you about my most catastrophic experiences with sysv... I've had quite a few. Anecdotal evidence is useless. What you're suggesting is basically spreading FUD. Your article didn't point out a single actual issue with systemd. I run large scale VM infrastructure on a systemd distro (RHEL, in particular) and I've yet to encounter a single issue that was caused by systemd or, for that matter, any issue with systemd that wasn't easily resolved.
  • fao_ 9y ago
    > What you're suggesting is basically spreading FUD. Your article didn't point out a single actual issue with systemd. That doesn't mean that there aren't any. Also, FUD (as I understand it) is people spreading unfounded rumours, not people documenting their own experiences and problems with a piece of software. The intent is incomparable. If you are actually interested in tangible structural flaws in systemd, look no further: https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/28/black_hat_pwnie_awards/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/28/black_hat_pwnie_awa... Also, see how Poettering handled this zero day (Which grants root to any user with a numeral): https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237 https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237 HINT: He doesn't think it's a bug... The fact that this even fucking exists in the first damn place: https://latesthackingnews.com/2017/06/29/a-systemd-vulnerability-allows-attackers-hack-linux-machines-via-malicious-dns-response/ https://latesthackingnews.com/2017/06/29/a-systemd-vulnerabi... See also: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_...
    • bennofs 9y ago
      > Which grants root to any user with a numeral This formulation may be misunderstood. The bug did not grant users root rights, it ignored the user= setting on a service if the service was intended to run as a user stating with a numeral. So you already needed to be root to create a service. The bug allows a service to run with more permissions than intended though.
• JdeBP 9y ago
  It appears that people are already using Twitter to do something similar. * https://twitter.com/Serianox_/status/922050013655650305 https://twitter.com/Serianox_/status/922050013655650305 * https://twitter.com/gibbon_/status/935786202724208641 https://twitter.com/gibbon_/status/935786202724208641 * https://twitter.com/ManChicken1911/status/931820892291608576 https://twitter.com/ManChicken1911/status/931820892291608576 * https://twitter.com/hawko2600/status/931082871187505153 https://twitter.com/hawko2600/status/931082871187505153 * https://twitter.com/RPaschedag/status/930860506256113666 https://twitter.com/RPaschedag/status/930860506256113666 * https://twitter.com/BoolKiRool/status/930422520074919936 https://twitter.com/BoolKiRool/status/930422520074919936 * https://twitter.com/infosecabaret/status/929069203193200640 https://twitter.com/infosecabaret/status/929069203193200640 * https://twitter.com/sirzeitgeist/status/925535140947922944 https://twitter.com/sirzeitgeist/status/925535140947922944 * https://twitter.com/saruspete/status/925182958012715009 https://twitter.com/saruspete/status/925182958012715009 * https://twitter.com/iMilnb/status/928260238322651136 https://twitter.com/iMilnb/status/928260238322651136 * https://twitter.com/patrick_mooney/status/936374590070185984 https://twitter.com/patrick_mooney/status/936374590070185984 * https://twitter.com/patrick_mooney/status/930929899686182912 https://twitter.com/patrick_mooney/status/930929899686182912 * https://twitter.com/patrick_mooney/status/930929899686182912 https://twitter.com/patrick_mooney/status/930929899686182912 * https://twitter.com/patrick_mooney/status/925026104972165120 https://twitter.com/patrick_mooney/status/925026104972165120 * https://twitter.com/patrick_mooney/status/925023617674461184 https://twitter.com/patrick_mooney/status/925023617674461184 * https://twitter.com/patrick_mooney/status/923815696894607360 https://twitter.com/patrick_mooney/status/923815696894607360 * https://twitter.com/warnecke/status/915010187932717056 https://twitter.com/warnecke/status/915010187932717056