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> In general I would say Apple is making the right choice here. IMO, they are making the wrong choice because they are making the choice (without letting you k

> In general I would say Apple is making the right choice here. IMO, they are making the wrong choice because they are making the choice (without letting you know). Isn't this a setting those nifty Boolean sliders were invented for?

coldtea 9y ago
>IMO, they are making the wrong choice because they are making the choice (without letting you know) The whole appeal of Apple is that they are making those kind of choices, and correctly for the biggest number of users. Hobbyists can always run their own custom mobile OS version.
- pritambaral 9y ago
  > Hobbyists can always run their own custom mobile OS version. Not on the iPhone.
- gluestic 9y ago
  > Hobbyists can always run their own custom mobile OS version. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
  - sctb 9y ago
    Please comment civilly and substantively or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - gluestic 9y ago
      Who makes a statement like that about Apple products and expects to be taken seriously?
      - logicallee 9y ago
        Your point is fair. (I'm not the one who made that statement you quoted, though I'm further upthread.) Your parent poster is a moderator here. Hacker News has one of the best places on the planet and it's amazing that it's been maintained, through the very hard work of the moderators. As you're a new user, the moderator pointed out the style conventions here. I personally think that often the knee-jerk reaction is a fine starting point. We get exactly what you meant by: > Hobbyists can always run their own custom mobile OS version. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA Next this should be edited to this form: > Hobbyists can always run their own custom mobile OS version. Surely even you do not seriously believe this. And suddenly we have a substantive discussion. (I assume this is what you meant.) Welcome to Hacker News.
      - coldtea 9y ago
        What exactly is your concern about the statement? If you want to tune every desired aspect of your OS, go install an open source mobile OS (there are a few) or LineageOS or something. iOS is opinionated and has always been.
logicallee 9y ago
agree hugely with the sibling reply, by coldtea. Also bear in mind that app developers are also reactive to Apple's choices. (If they need to optimize their software, they will do so. On the other hand, if they can skip optimizing by just telling users to turn on a setting, many will do just that.) I'd rather Apple make developers have to look up what an algorithm is, and spend hours - hours! - of their life turning an iterative exhaustive search into a binary search (for example), because they have to work on a slow core too, than for me to have to dig around in settings, turn on a "Force high-CPU usage" and let developers keep being lazy. This goes for Apple's developers too, and I realize their own first-party software such as the OS is too slow on the low-power core. I mentioned this above. I stand by my original comment. Bear in mind that there might be applications that use state of the art algorithms, can run, but just barely, on the high-powered cores but not on the low-power cores, and are not intermittant. I am saying that it is acceptable to have to replace battery every 24 months, or plug in the phone, if you want to keep using them. I can give you another analogy for why I don't agree with your take. Back in the day there was an "iPhone hand warmer" that drained the battery and spun the processors. These days that application would get throttled, it would not be able to warm up the phone by draining its battery. In my opinion this is correct.

coldtea 9y ago

>IMO, they are making the wrong choice because they are making the choice (without letting you know) The whole appeal of Apple is that they are making those kind of choices, and correctly for the biggest number of users. Hobbyists can always run their own custom mobile OS version.

pritambaral 9y ago
> Hobbyists can always run their own custom mobile OS version. Not on the iPhone.
gluestic 9y ago
> Hobbyists can always run their own custom mobile OS version. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
- sctb 9y ago
  Please comment civilly and substantively or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - gluestic 9y ago
    Who makes a statement like that about Apple products and expects to be taken seriously?
    - logicallee 9y ago
      Your point is fair. (I'm not the one who made that statement you quoted, though I'm further upthread.) Your parent poster is a moderator here. Hacker News has one of the best places on the planet and it's amazing that it's been maintained, through the very hard work of the moderators. As you're a new user, the moderator pointed out the style conventions here. I personally think that often the knee-jerk reaction is a fine starting point. We get exactly what you meant by: > Hobbyists can always run their own custom mobile OS version. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA Next this should be edited to this form: > Hobbyists can always run their own custom mobile OS version. Surely even you do not seriously believe this. And suddenly we have a substantive discussion. (I assume this is what you meant.) Welcome to Hacker News.
    - coldtea 9y ago
      What exactly is your concern about the statement? If you want to tune every desired aspect of your OS, go install an open source mobile OS (there are a few) or LineageOS or something. iOS is opinionated and has always been.

logicallee 9y ago

agree hugely with the sibling reply, by coldtea. Also bear in mind that app developers are also reactive to Apple's choices. (If they need to optimize their software, they will do so. On the other hand, if they can skip optimizing by just telling users to turn on a setting, many will do just that.) I'd rather Apple make developers have to look up what an algorithm is, and spend hours - hours! - of their life turning an iterative exhaustive search into a binary search (for example), because they have to work on a slow core too, than for me to have to dig around in settings, turn on a "Force high-CPU usage" and let developers keep being lazy. This goes for Apple's developers too, and I realize their own first-party software such as the OS is too slow on the low-power core. I mentioned this above. I stand by my original comment. Bear in mind that there might be applications that use state of the art algorithms, can run, but just barely, on the high-powered cores but not on the low-power cores, and are not intermittant. I am saying that it is acceptable to have to replace battery every 24 months, or plug in the phone, if you want to keep using them. I can give you another analogy for why I don't agree with your take. Back in the day there was an "iPhone hand warmer" that drained the battery and spun the processors. These days that application would get throttled, it would not be able to warm up the phone by draining its battery. In my opinion this is correct.