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>Yet, also, IQ tests are strongly influenced by cultural knowledge Raven Progressive Matrices, I believe the most used IQ test today is not influenced by cultu
by lucio 9y ago
>Yet, also, IQ tests are strongly influenced by cultural knowledge
Raven Progressive Matrices, I believe the most used IQ test today is not influenced by cultural knowledge. IQ has an amazingly high correlation with academic success and work success, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSo5v5t4OQM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSo5v5t4OQM
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- DoreenMichele 9y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven%27s_Progressive_Matrices https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven%27s_Progressive_Matric... Wikipedia says that people with autism and asperger's outperform other people on Raven's tests. Most people view ASD individuals as seriously cognitively impaired and they are often seen as low IQ, so I have trouble with your assertion. It suggests that people the world sees as highly impaired whose lives typically are harder than average are smarter than the rest of us. This completely flies in the face of every definition I have ever seen for IQ as a general predictor of competence. Wikipedia also says the answers for Raven's matrices have been leaked, making them useless as an assessment tool.
- Houshalter 9y ago>Most people view ASD individuals as seriously cognitively impaired and they are often seen as low IQ, so I have trouble with your assertion. Popular culture stereotypes autists as being highly intelligent.
- DoreenMichele 9y agohttps://www.appliedbehavioranalysisedu.org/is-autism-associated-with-higher-intelligence/ https://www.appliedbehavioranalysisedu.org/is-autism-associa... The very existence of autism calls into question our historical conceptualization of intelligence and IQ testing. I have two ASD sons. They are very bright. They also have some serious personal struggles. So, which is it? Does IQ measure general competence or does it measure something else? Because this latest twist in the conversation seems just ridiculous.
- Houshalter 9y agoI have no idea what you think this is supposed to prove. People with a weird brain condition have weird results on brain tests? >Does IQ measure general competence or does it measure something else? It's an Intelligence Quotient. It measures intelligence. No one said anything about "general competence", whatever that even means. I imagine intelligence is an important part of "general competence" though.
- DoreenMichele 9y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15889035 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15889035 You are contradicting yourself.
- Houshalter 9y agoNo, I'm not.
- brailsafe 9y agoLucio in one of the parents proposed that IQ is highly correlated with general competence.
- sydd 9y agoNo, this is one of the biggest misundertandings about the IQ tests. It does not measure inteeligence, it measures something which we tagged with the name "IQ". We cannot measure intelligence, since we cant even define it properly (in a way that we attach a measurement unit ot it).
- Houshalter 9y agoIt is called an intelligence test. Actual scientists talk about it and use it as such. It is a combination of measures of many different cognitive abilities. Which seems like a pretty good definition for intelligence to me.