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The other way to see it is that traditional media may be losing the monopoly of information because people now have internet and social media as alternative. I

The other way to see it is that traditional media may be losing the monopoly of information because people now have internet and social media as alternative. It concerns me because it seems that Maria Ressa is now turning to foreigners to intervene and destabilize my country? What if some of these "journalists" are the ones spreading fake news? Recently, Rappler reported this. https://www.rappler.com/nation/171702-isis-resorts-world-manila-casino-attack https://www.rappler.com/nation/171702-isis-resorts-world-man... Then she followed up with this article. https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/171784-terrorism-isis-resorts-world-attack https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/171784-terrorism-... But the blogger RJ Nieto AKA Thinking Pinoy (http://www.thinkingpinoy.net/ http://www.thinkingpinoy.net/) pointed it out as fearmongering and fake news. "Rappler cited Agence France Press who cited Rita Katz of SITE Intelligence Group who cited an anonymous "Marawi Contact". THAT IS DOUBLE HEARSAY (OR EVEN TRIPLE HEARSAY). You did not even bother to ask Katz herself and instead relied on a news wire!" https://web.facebook.com/TheThinkingPinoy/photos/a.568177789995995.1073741828.567419693405138/844956232318148/?type=3&theater https://web.facebook.com/TheThinkingPinoy/photos/a.568177789... Thinking Pinoy is labeled by her as a troll and seems to be going around the world trying to convince other people. http://www.getrealphilippines.com/blog/2017/06/people-shrieking-fake-news-starting-sound-like-boy-cried-wolf/ http://www.getrealphilippines.com/blog/2017/06/people-shriek... Here, Thinking Pinoy shows that bloggers are having more engagement in Facebook than traditional media. That may be one of the reasons why she's trying to put down Thinking Pinoy. https://web.facebook.com/TheThinkingPinoy/posts/681350205345419:0?_rdc=1&_rdr https://web.facebook.com/TheThinkingPinoy/posts/681350205345... Is Pres. Duterte a tyrant or dictator? One may say that it depends on who is affected and why. Previous administration promised Freedom of Information (FOI) but only Pres. Duterte implemented it. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/798612/full-text-executive-order-on-freedom-of-information http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/798612/full-text-executive-orde... Here's the FOI online portal (Browse over 2662 requests and 217 government agencies). https://www.foi.gov.ph/requests?agency=&status=SUCCESSFUL https://www.foi.gov.ph/requests?agency=&status=SUCCESSFUL When I saw this online and fully functional, I was glad and convinced that he is the opposite. He is a leader that upholds freedom and embraces technology (this is very important to me because I'm in the tech sector). He promised to try to uphold peace and order to the people during the campaign. He openly told the people what he's going to do and it's his priority. People voted for him and he won. Well, that's democracy at work. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/01/philippines-president-rodrigo-duterte-urges-people-to-kill-drug-addicts https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/01/philippines-pr... He tries to make peace with the communists and muslim insurgents. He even let one of the leaders of our muslim brothers speak on the president's podium. http://www.mindanews.com/peace-process/2016/11/nur-and-digong-when-brothers-and-presidents-meet/ http://www.mindanews.com/peace-process/2016/11/nur-and-digon... According to a survey, majority of the people "agreed they can say anything they want openly and without fear even if it is against the government. http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/07/02/1715565/freedom-speech-strong-sws http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/07/02/1715565/freedom... He let protesters rally on the streets. Now, isn't that a working democracy where people are free voice out their concerns? http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/848056/duterte-to-protesters-you-can-protest-with-no-limit http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/848056/duterte-to-protesters-yo... How about some of the anti-Duterte who label other people as trolls and try to silence them by taking down their Facebook account, what do you call them? I was just scrolling here for tech news but then I found this which prompted me to write this. Sorry for the long read. I'd like to know what you think about this. Just refrain from senseless bashing please. By the way, I live in the PH since birth.

skytreader 9y ago
> You did not even bother to ask Katz herself and instead relied on a news wire! Uh. Because the press relies on news wires all the time? While standard practice, I am not claiming that news wires are infallible. Mistakes can happen. But the difference between traditional journalists and Facebook bloggers is that traditional journalists are held to a standard in factual reporting. You might notice that the first Rappler article you linked to [1] is subheaded by an update which conveys a message different to the headline: (6th UPDATE) The Philippine National Police says the 'isolated' incident is not a terrorist act but Defense Chief Lorenzana tells Rappler, "We're not ruling out that this is ISIS." In contrast, bloggers (like RJ Nieto in the Senate hearing regarding fake news) would often just hide behind the excuse "I am entitled to my opinion". Sure, no one contests that you are entitled to your own opinion. But never peddle your opinion as fact. > Previous administration promised Freedom of Information (FOI) but only Pres. Duterte implemented it. I don't think this wins points for Duterte. The FOI came relatively late into the last administration's term. The previous administration basically did the bulk of the legislative footwork necessary to pass a bill. Almost all that's left for Duterte to do is to sign the bill. Had the FOI been raised a few legislative seasons earlier, it might as well be Aquino who signed it into implementation. Carry over projects are common when administrations transition. > Here's the FOI online portal (Browse over 2662 requests and 217 government agencies). I think a better measure of FOI's efficacy are the actual statistics. [2] The graph isn't completely clear but it would seem that, as of this writing, there are 797 denied requests (278 labeled as "Denied requests" and 519 merely labeled "Denied"). Compared to 820 successful requests, that means it is roughly 50-50 on whether your FOI request will be granted. So much for "freedom" there. Granted, some of the denied requests were unfulfilled allegedly since the office from which the data was requested did not have said data. While a believable response, I find it frustrating that our government could not cross-check with other agencies when reasonable. But that is as much freedom as you can get from bureaucracy, I guess. [1] https://www.rappler.com/nation/171702-isis-resorts-world-manila-casino-attack https://www.rappler.com/nation/171702-isis-resorts-world-man... [2] https://www.foi.gov.ph/statistics?type=outcomes https://www.foi.gov.ph/statistics?type=outcomes
- mjohnre 9y ago
  > (6th UPDATE) Initially, they reported without verification that ISIS was responsible. Isn't that fearmongering? Does that not qualify as fake news? > traditional journalists are held to a standard in factual reporting Who checks them? They're not infallible just like the bloggers. Don't get me wrong, I'm for free speech and not for censorship. What seems to be happening now is that "journalists" label bloggers in Facebook as trolls to silence them and still label Pres. Duterte as dictator. Who's the dictator in that case? > bloggers (like RJ Nieto in the Senate hearing regarding fake news) would often just hide behind the excuse "I am entitled to my opinion" The same RJ Nieto who is one of the people to be the first to raise the issue about Dengvaxia, an unproven vaccine against Dengue administered by the previous administration to about 700,000 children. Dengvaxia is reported to worsen the condition for those who do not have a previous case of Dengue. I think RJ Nieto peddles his opinion quite well to make people accountable. Why do "journalists" label him as troll? Is it because he does not conform to their narrative? > The previous administration basically did the bulk of the legislative footwork necessary to pass a bill. Almost all that's left for Duterte to do is to sign the bill. Pres. Duterte issued an executive order. Please don't try to frame it as if he is credit grabbing. Even so, why didn't the previous administration just signed and implemented it? By making it as a priority when Pres. Duterte took office, I think he deserves a kudos. > But that is as much freedom as you can get from bureaucracy, I guess. Yeah, the government must improve.

skytreader 9y ago

> You did not even bother to ask Katz herself and instead relied on a news wire! Uh. Because the press relies on news wires all the time? While standard practice, I am not claiming that news wires are infallible. Mistakes can happen. But the difference between traditional journalists and Facebook bloggers is that traditional journalists are held to a standard in factual reporting. You might notice that the first Rappler article you linked to [1] is subheaded by an update which conveys a message different to the headline: (6th UPDATE) The Philippine National Police says the 'isolated' incident is not a terrorist act but Defense Chief Lorenzana tells Rappler, "We're not ruling out that this is ISIS." In contrast, bloggers (like RJ Nieto in the Senate hearing regarding fake news) would often just hide behind the excuse "I am entitled to my opinion". Sure, no one contests that you are entitled to your own opinion. But never peddle your opinion as fact. > Previous administration promised Freedom of Information (FOI) but only Pres. Duterte implemented it. I don't think this wins points for Duterte. The FOI came relatively late into the last administration's term. The previous administration basically did the bulk of the legislative footwork necessary to pass a bill. Almost all that's left for Duterte to do is to sign the bill. Had the FOI been raised a few legislative seasons earlier, it might as well be Aquino who signed it into implementation. Carry over projects are common when administrations transition. > Here's the FOI online portal (Browse over 2662 requests and 217 government agencies). I think a better measure of FOI's efficacy are the actual statistics. [2] The graph isn't completely clear but it would seem that, as of this writing, there are 797 denied requests (278 labeled as "Denied requests" and 519 merely labeled "Denied"). Compared to 820 successful requests, that means it is roughly 50-50 on whether your FOI request will be granted. So much for "freedom" there. Granted, some of the denied requests were unfulfilled allegedly since the office from which the data was requested did not have said data. While a believable response, I find it frustrating that our government could not cross-check with other agencies when reasonable. But that is as much freedom as you can get from bureaucracy, I guess. [1] https://www.rappler.com/nation/171702-isis-resorts-world-manila-casino-attack https://www.rappler.com/nation/171702-isis-resorts-world-man... [2] https://www.foi.gov.ph/statistics?type=outcomes https://www.foi.gov.ph/statistics?type=outcomes

mjohnre 9y ago
> (6th UPDATE) Initially, they reported without verification that ISIS was responsible. Isn't that fearmongering? Does that not qualify as fake news? > traditional journalists are held to a standard in factual reporting Who checks them? They're not infallible just like the bloggers. Don't get me wrong, I'm for free speech and not for censorship. What seems to be happening now is that "journalists" label bloggers in Facebook as trolls to silence them and still label Pres. Duterte as dictator. Who's the dictator in that case? > bloggers (like RJ Nieto in the Senate hearing regarding fake news) would often just hide behind the excuse "I am entitled to my opinion" The same RJ Nieto who is one of the people to be the first to raise the issue about Dengvaxia, an unproven vaccine against Dengue administered by the previous administration to about 700,000 children. Dengvaxia is reported to worsen the condition for those who do not have a previous case of Dengue. I think RJ Nieto peddles his opinion quite well to make people accountable. Why do "journalists" label him as troll? Is it because he does not conform to their narrative? > The previous administration basically did the bulk of the legislative footwork necessary to pass a bill. Almost all that's left for Duterte to do is to sign the bill. Pres. Duterte issued an executive order. Please don't try to frame it as if he is credit grabbing. Even so, why didn't the previous administration just signed and implemented it? By making it as a priority when Pres. Duterte took office, I think he deserves a kudos. > But that is as much freedom as you can get from bureaucracy, I guess. Yeah, the government must improve.