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I'm writing this from the Philippines. The problem here is that this country has a very weak commitment to rule of law, even though the Constitution of 1987 is
by wyclif 9y ago
I'm writing this from the Philippines. The problem here is that this country has a very weak commitment to rule of law, even though the Constitution of 1987 is based on the US Constitution. The big difference though, especially with regard to the large number of extra-judicial killings that have been carried out under Duterte's administration and with his approval, is that the victims were killed without a trial at all. Say what you want about the US death penalty and the fairness of it, but you cannot be put to death in the US by the government without a trial and legal representation. The Philippines glorifies vigilantism and "banana leaf justice" (because the murdered victims are often covered with a banana leaf or a piece of cardboard with "pusher" scrawled on it) Whataboutism doesn't change that.
- justin66 9y agoI heard a series of "on the street" interviews with Filipinos recently and one was with a couple, one of whom approved of Duterte and one who did not. When the guy, who approved of Duterte, was asked about extrajudicial killings he said something along the lines of "yes, that goes overboard sometimes. Aside from that he's good." That attitude is even more unsettling to me, somehow. "Aside from all the murders he's committing, things are going well."
- tigershark 9y agoAs far as I know he didn't commit any murder, do you have proof of the contrary?
- justin66 9y agoAre you denying that there have been extrajudicial killings, or are you denying that the person who gives the order is responsible? Just curious.
- joeax 9y ago> but you cannot be put to death in the US by the government without a trial and legal representation I agree with you mostly, but um, if you pay attention our cops shoot and kill thousands of people per year, many of them unarmed. And we have a president that was lauding this practice (and praising Duterte). We're nowhere nearly as bad as Duterte, but we're heading in the wrong direction.
- evunveot 9y ago> shoot and kill thousands of people per year, many of them unarmed Closer to one thousand, 10% of whom were unarmed (that 10% includes all the cases where police believed the victim was armed when they actually weren't; believed the victim was reaching for a weapon; believed the victim was using a car as a weapon; cops killing their wives/girlfriends while off-duty; etc.). https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/... (filter by "Classification" to see only gunshots)
- anigbrowl 9y agoyou cannot be put to death in the US by the government without a trial and legal representation You shouldn't, but you can certainly be killed by someone working for the government. You need to check this out, even though the video footage is disturbing to say the very least: http://www.newsweek.com/police-release-graphic-video-officer-involved-shooting-742241 http://www.newsweek.com/police-release-graphic-video-officer...