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For those who are only relying their information on the internet and who are not physically present in the Philippines that's a rhetoric.

by jister 9y ago

cyberpunk0 9y ago
Mass murder is mass murder even if a populace is brainwashed, though I would would wager when you have death squads wandering around and use the cover of drugs to take out political opponents to gain power most people would side with you out of fear anyway, like most oppressive dictatorships. People like you are disgusting, you want to support such mass murder on genocidal levels fine but don't be surprised when people shun you. If it we're up to me you should be the one getting murdered for supporting this shit rather than all the innocents killed so far and pending due to fucking chemicals.
- jister 9y ago
  People who have not been in the Philippines and are saying things that they don't know are just plain ignorant. For you to even accuse me of being disgusting just proves how naive you are about me and my country.
  - jpamata 9y ago
    It is disgusting to support an administration that lies about the statistics of drugs to justify their failing war on drugs that has also taken the lives of innocents from children to bystanders (which the government simply called as "collateral damage" [0]). How many times has our government lied to us about the statistics? 2015 - 1.8 Million Drug Users from a study by the Dangerous Drug Board [1] 2016 - Duterte claims that there are 3.7 Million Addicts in the country [2] 2016 - Months later, Duterte claims that there'd be 4 Million by the end of September [3] 2017 - On May, Philippine Drug Agency says there's now 4.7 Million Addicts [4] 2017 - On September, Foreign Affairs Secretary (and Duterte's VP running mate) hiked the number to 7 Million Drug Addicts at a UN Assembly [5] Tell me, if his war on drugs is such a success, then why is the number of junkies growing? sources: [0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/17/duterte-says-children-killed-in-philippines-drug-war-are-collateral-damage https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/17/duterte-says-c... [1] https://www.rappler.com/nation/146654-drug-use-survey-results-dangerous-drugs-board-philippines-2015 https://www.rappler.com/nation/146654-drug-use-survey-result... [2] http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/07/25/16/read-transcript-of-president-dutertes-1st-sona http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/07/25/16/read-transcript-of-pr... [3] http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/09/23/1626648/duterte-hikes-philippines-drug-use-figure-anew-despite-little-evidence http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/09/23/1626648/duterte... [4] http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/05/04/1696547/pdea-philippines-has-4.7-m-drug-users http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/05/04/1696547/pdea-ph... [5] http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/09/28/1743577/cayetano-hikes-figure-drug-addicts-philippines-7-million http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/09/28/1743577/cayetan...
    - 659087 9y ago
      The number is "growing" to give Duterte and his friends justification to ramp up and continue their mass murder campaign and allow them to continue convincing the brainwashed masses that they're in constant danger and need their "protection" from the evil drug zombie hordes.
    - jister 9y ago
      It is disgusting to link sources from those Liberal Party leaning media outfit which we Filipinos know that are full of crap. Look for a journalist that is fair when writing news and I will acknowledge it.
      - jinonoel 9y ago
        So the UK's The Guardian is now a "(Philippine)Liberal Party leaning media outfit". That's an amazing troll. I'll bite. What is your source of "fair" news these days?
      - jpamata 9y ago
        You can find other references from both local and international media, even video recordings, if you think the links I posted aren't deserving of your attention.
  - anigbrowl 9y ago
    You know we can read and hear Duterte's speeches for ourselves, right? Also, he's not unique, in either the Phillipines or the world. It's easy to compare him to Marcos or various other dictators that have engaged in brutal public order campaigns.
anon1385 9y ago
Are you suggesting that the video of that press conference is fabricated? Why is my physical location relevant to criticising death squads executing people in the street?
- jister 9y ago
  Your physical location is relevant because your knowledge about what's going on in the Philippines is very limited. The fact that you are saying about death squads proves my point. THERE ARE NO DEATH SQUADS HERE! Watching a few videos doesn't make you an expert about Philippines.
  - jinonoel 9y ago
    I'm from the Philippines. Am I allowed to comment? There absolutely are police death squads roaming around, so much that Philippine National Police's involvement in the drug war had to be removed after there was too much outrage from the populace. They were even caught executing unarmed kids on CCTV for fuck's sake. Just because you're biased towards our fucktard President and can't accept the truth doesn't mean others are just as blind as you.
    - jister 9y ago
      The "death squads" or criminals that you are referring too are already part of the police several presidency before Duterte took office. Some of them are involve in drugs and have been killing before Duterte came so why are you blaming the president now?
      - jinonoel 9y ago
        Because back then we didn't have a president that encouraged cops to just kill: http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/07/02/1598740/duterte-pnp-kill-1000-ill-protect-you http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/07/02/1598740/duterte... Or congratulated cops after they killed 58 people during drug raids in a single week: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/17/544128734/-that-s-good-philippine-president-says-as-drug-raids-kill-unprecedented-numbers https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/17/544128734.... Those drug raids lead to the CCTV footage of cops executing an unarmed 16-year old kid who was already in handcuffs, btw. Or has repeatedly vowed to pardon and ask for the reinstatement of the cops that have been charged with the murder of a drug lord inside his jail cell in the middle of the night: http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/31/17/duterte-vows-anew-to-pardon-promote-cops-who-killed-espinosa http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/31/17/duterte-vows-anew-to-p.... Those cops are now free on bail
daveFNbuck 9y ago
What do you mean when you say that's a rhetoric? How does that make it ok when he's saying he wants to be like Hitler and slaughter 3 million people?
- jister 9y ago
  it might not be okay in your country but in ours in came to a point that criminals here are not afraid of the law anymore. on my way to work i saw a criminal stabbed someone in broad daylight and then walk away like noting happened without fearing the police which is just a few blocks away.
  - daveFNbuck 9y ago
    Do you think Nazi Germany is a good model for how to fix your country?

For those who are only relying their information on the internet and who are not physically present in the Philippines that's a rhetoric.

by jister 9y ago

For those who are only relying their information on the internet and who are not physically present in the Philippines that's a rhetoric.

cyberpunk0 9y ago

Mass murder is mass murder even if a populace is brainwashed, though I would would wager when you have death squads wandering around and use the cover of drugs to take out political opponents to gain power most people would side with you out of fear anyway, like most oppressive dictatorships. People like you are disgusting, you want to support such mass murder on genocidal levels fine but don't be surprised when people shun you. If it we're up to me you should be the one getting murdered for supporting this shit rather than all the innocents killed so far and pending due to fucking chemicals.

jister 9y ago
People who have not been in the Philippines and are saying things that they don't know are just plain ignorant. For you to even accuse me of being disgusting just proves how naive you are about me and my country.
- jpamata 9y ago
  It is disgusting to support an administration that lies about the statistics of drugs to justify their failing war on drugs that has also taken the lives of innocents from children to bystanders (which the government simply called as "collateral damage" [0]). How many times has our government lied to us about the statistics? 2015 - 1.8 Million Drug Users from a study by the Dangerous Drug Board [1] 2016 - Duterte claims that there are 3.7 Million Addicts in the country [2] 2016 - Months later, Duterte claims that there'd be 4 Million by the end of September [3] 2017 - On May, Philippine Drug Agency says there's now 4.7 Million Addicts [4] 2017 - On September, Foreign Affairs Secretary (and Duterte's VP running mate) hiked the number to 7 Million Drug Addicts at a UN Assembly [5] Tell me, if his war on drugs is such a success, then why is the number of junkies growing? sources: [0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/17/duterte-says-children-killed-in-philippines-drug-war-are-collateral-damage https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/17/duterte-says-c... [1] https://www.rappler.com/nation/146654-drug-use-survey-results-dangerous-drugs-board-philippines-2015 https://www.rappler.com/nation/146654-drug-use-survey-result... [2] http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/07/25/16/read-transcript-of-president-dutertes-1st-sona http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/07/25/16/read-transcript-of-pr... [3] http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/09/23/1626648/duterte-hikes-philippines-drug-use-figure-anew-despite-little-evidence http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/09/23/1626648/duterte... [4] http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/05/04/1696547/pdea-philippines-has-4.7-m-drug-users http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/05/04/1696547/pdea-ph... [5] http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/09/28/1743577/cayetano-hikes-figure-drug-addicts-philippines-7-million http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/09/28/1743577/cayetan...
  - 659087 9y ago
    The number is "growing" to give Duterte and his friends justification to ramp up and continue their mass murder campaign and allow them to continue convincing the brainwashed masses that they're in constant danger and need their "protection" from the evil drug zombie hordes.
  - jister 9y ago
    It is disgusting to link sources from those Liberal Party leaning media outfit which we Filipinos know that are full of crap. Look for a journalist that is fair when writing news and I will acknowledge it.
    - jinonoel 9y ago
      So the UK's The Guardian is now a "(Philippine)Liberal Party leaning media outfit". That's an amazing troll. I'll bite. What is your source of "fair" news these days?
    - jpamata 9y ago
      You can find other references from both local and international media, even video recordings, if you think the links I posted aren't deserving of your attention.
- anigbrowl 9y ago
  You know we can read and hear Duterte's speeches for ourselves, right? Also, he's not unique, in either the Phillipines or the world. It's easy to compare him to Marcos or various other dictators that have engaged in brutal public order campaigns.

anon1385 9y ago

Are you suggesting that the video of that press conference is fabricated? Why is my physical location relevant to criticising death squads executing people in the street?

jister 9y ago
Your physical location is relevant because your knowledge about what's going on in the Philippines is very limited. The fact that you are saying about death squads proves my point. THERE ARE NO DEATH SQUADS HERE! Watching a few videos doesn't make you an expert about Philippines.
- jinonoel 9y ago
  I'm from the Philippines. Am I allowed to comment? There absolutely are police death squads roaming around, so much that Philippine National Police's involvement in the drug war had to be removed after there was too much outrage from the populace. They were even caught executing unarmed kids on CCTV for fuck's sake. Just because you're biased towards our fucktard President and can't accept the truth doesn't mean others are just as blind as you.
  - jister 9y ago
    The "death squads" or criminals that you are referring too are already part of the police several presidency before Duterte took office. Some of them are involve in drugs and have been killing before Duterte came so why are you blaming the president now?
    - jinonoel 9y ago
      Because back then we didn't have a president that encouraged cops to just kill: http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/07/02/1598740/duterte-pnp-kill-1000-ill-protect-you http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/07/02/1598740/duterte... Or congratulated cops after they killed 58 people during drug raids in a single week: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/17/544128734/-that-s-good-philippine-president-says-as-drug-raids-kill-unprecedented-numbers https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/17/544128734.... Those drug raids lead to the CCTV footage of cops executing an unarmed 16-year old kid who was already in handcuffs, btw. Or has repeatedly vowed to pardon and ask for the reinstatement of the cops that have been charged with the murder of a drug lord inside his jail cell in the middle of the night: http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/31/17/duterte-vows-anew-to-pardon-promote-cops-who-killed-espinosa http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/31/17/duterte-vows-anew-to-p.... Those cops are now free on bail

daveFNbuck 9y ago

What do you mean when you say that's a rhetoric? How does that make it ok when he's saying he wants to be like Hitler and slaughter 3 million people?

jister 9y ago
it might not be okay in your country but in ours in came to a point that criminals here are not afraid of the law anymore. on my way to work i saw a criminal stabbed someone in broad daylight and then walk away like noting happened without fearing the police which is just a few blocks away.
- daveFNbuck 9y ago
  Do you think Nazi Germany is a good model for how to fix your country?