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Ask HN: Review My (first) Startup: jummpp.in
http://jummpp.in
Dear All,
This is my ugly baby that I love very much. I know you guys can inspire me to make it better.
It's a way to discover things to do with your friends.
You make suggestions of what you might want to do. "I want to see a movie", but you don't have to specify when, where, or even which movie. Different from a traditional event invitation system, it's designed to handle more uncertainty. Because first, you want to find out if there's interest in a suggestion. If there is, you work out the details to make a suggestion actually happen.
It's like reddit for events. It aggregates interest among your friends, to see what everyone would want to do, without anyone having to call up everyone.
I'd personally use it for long tail ideas like "going to the flea market", which I am not sure if ANYONE might be interested. I'd just toss it out there, and see if it sticks.
It's a way to discover your friends. You might realize that a friend is also interested in art house films, but you didn't know, because you never thought of to ask.
jummpp.in
My page is jummpp.in/hayeah
p.s. It uses facebook connect. The app doesn't post to your wall unless you explicitly share something. It only grabs your email and name to create an account.
- jamesgolick 16y agoSo, I think my biggest problem with this app is the UI. The layout is okay, but there are lots of places where the spacing is really far off. Especially the enormous yellow bar on the front page. The type is way too big for the box, and the facebook connect icon is way too big. It needs to be displayed in its natural size - or an appropriately sized one needs to be found. In general, little issues like that plague the UI and make it feel unpolished. Fixing them will go a long way towards making the app feel like something I'd want to use.
- howard_yeh 16y agothe enormous yellow bar is large and loud... in hope to focus attention on the facebook connect. But ya, I'll have to spend some time taking a closer look to fix the little issues
- startupcto 16y agoAnything is good for version 1.0. Start working on what matters because Ugly sites do make millions http://blog.kissmetrics.com/ugly-websites/?utm_source=wptwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=blogtwitter http://blog.kissmetrics.com/ugly-websites/?utm_source=wptwit...
- howard_yeh 16y agoclickable http://jummpp.in http://jummpp.in
- Super_Jambo 16y agoafter using facebook connect to log in I clicked 'find friends' (either in the to do list or up top) and it appears to log me out and take me to the front page...
- howard_yeh 16y agoeeek. really! does it do that all the time? but can you log back in? so sorry for that :(
- Super_Jambo 16y ago'fraid so. Seems to do it every time. I can log back in. The link it is giving me to 'find friends' is: http://jummpp.in/users/45/find_friends http://jummpp.in/users/45/find_friends
- howard_yeh 16y agothat is weird. i am not getting any exception raised. let me try to track it down.
- Super_Jambo 16y agoThis bug is still happening for me btw.
- howard_yeh 16y agois anyone having the same problem? the "find friends" page queries facebook for the list of your friends also using jummpp.in. which is most likely the empty set. Tearing my hair out why Super_Jambo is being logged out.
- jdouma 16y agoFrom what I've seen of it, it looks like a great idea. I can't wait 'til you have a mobile / non-FB interface. I hope it catches on.
- ljf 16y agoagreed - mobile (cut down) version would be great - other ways of logging in that FB - AND even more FB integration (don't want the site to become one MORE place to visit) - maybe tie-in with twitter too? Like the design but could have a few more colours to feel more social for the non hacker/geek squad like us here :) Decent name and url - I just bought a shorter URL which might be a better fit, but guess you want to stick with what you got :) Also - add a simpler feedback form to the site - I couldn't be bothered to add my details / search for similar questions etc.
- chunkyslink 16y agoI cant use it. I don't have a FB account so pretty useless to me. Looks like a fun idea though.
- howard_yeh 16y agodo you think twitter integration might work for you?
- jamesbritt 16y agoNot for me. I have zero interest in coupling some new Web app to any of my other online accounts. Just let me use a validated E-mail address and a password to use your site, and don't require me to let you hook into any other services I may or may not use.
- howard_yeh 16y agoi'll for sure implement login for jummpp.in itself. Before that though, i think it's a good idea I establish a baseline so I can see how many people actually want to use a separate login. This is one area i am not sure of. Some of my friends like facebook connect, some are surprisingly reluctant (despite knowing it's from me).
- jamesbritt 16y agoThen perhaps openauth or something else that's independent.
- tsycho 16y agoI second the request for a non-FB/Twitter login. Two reasons: (1) I cannot access Facebook and Twitter from work. (2) I don't trust new websites with my FB credentials since I am paranoid about how they might spam my friends, compromise my privacy etc. without me even realizing it. With a validated email account, I would love to test out the site.
- chunkyslink 16y ago
- burriko 16y agoGreat idea, and this is definitely something i could see myself using. I'm wondering though, what's the big advantage over me just posting on Facebook 'anyone want to see inception tonight?'? Does it just help me to manage the responses?
- howard_yeh 16y agothanks! glad you like it. jummpp.in is somewhere between facebook events and facebook statuses. Right now it has a little extra features over facebook statuses (hashtag, so you can quickly find all the #lunch events, for example). as I develop the app more, I'd build more features to help solidify a suggestion. For example, multiple choices of dates, so people can vote on which date works the best.
- pedalpete 16y agoYour baby is not ugly! The site I'm currently working on and discussions I've had with friends, a few have asked me to build exactly what you've got. Others didn't want me to abandon the original idea, so I'm sticking to my guns, figuring somebody would nail the space you're going after (plancast is trying, but haven't seemed to capture the ad-hoc-iness that you've got). I like your nice clean design and the simplicity of adding events, though I didn't get any sort of pop-up to post to my facebook page, so I can't really inform my friends about it (I used one of my old fb test accounts). I see you linked in to your cirque list, which I think is really great, to get intros to other people who are looking to do similar things. I'm going to be in Vancouver in the next week (I'm from Whistler) let me know if you want to meet-up for coffee and I can tell you about the suggestions I've had from my friends and my thoughts related to your project. I can be reached at pete / hearwhere.com
- howard_yeh 16y agocool! ya i'd be very interested to hear your experience. i'll drop you an e-mail.
- JangoSteve 16y agoI think it sounds like a really cool idea and I would almost certainly use it if my friends were using it. That being said, I'm not going to associate my Facebook account with this app unless I'm a little more sure I'll actually use it. For me to make that decision, I need to see some examples. In other words, consider linking to your profile (or a throw-away example profile) on the front page.
- howard_yeh 16y agothat's a good idea. do you think a screencast would help to convince you? that's one of the things i haven't got around in doing.
- JangoSteve 16y agoSure, a screencast definitely wouldn't hurt.
- ykro 16y agoFor me it seems like an app that would work with small groups of friends (like people from the same college) maybe you can consider using OpenID integration for everyone that doesn't use Facebook. IMHO there's a lot of API integration that you can do, like Google Calendar or even YouTube or Flickr for a fancy description of the event. And in the future consider going mobile, anyway, great idea.
- robertg 16y ago+1 for OpenID
- howard_yeh 16y agoto be honest, i am a surprised that facebook connect is the biggest issue. I guess we techies are more cautious and cynical about facebook. I wonder how i can test against a less tech oriented crowd. But ya, more API integration.
- hm2k 16y agohttp://www.thinkgeek.com/books/humor/8e6c/images/2070/ http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/humor/8e6c/images/2070/
- howard_yeh 16y agohahaha, that's awesome. 12 different flavors of maybes
- exline 16y agoI'm not big fan of using Facebook login. I would think that it raises a barrier of entry for users, either because they don't have a facebook account or because they don't know what side affects your app will have. You don't explain what the advantages of using Facebook, or what integration there is with facebook. How will it affect the users's facebook account. You said in your post that it does not post to your wall, but you don't say that on the site that I can see. Also the footer links are not links. You can't click on them. If I just say this page, I would not sign up because it doesn't look real yet with just a single page.
- howard_yeh 16y agoyes. lesson learned. offer options other than facebook login. the footer is a potemkin village ;)
- howard_yeh 16y agothanks everyone for taking the time to comment. I think the main lessons are: 1) provide independent login 2) explain better what facebook connect is used for 3) provide more information upfront what the service is like, some people can decide if they want it. 4) an example page i am glad i got early feedback :) thank you all so much
- lloyddobbler 16y agoSeems like a cool idea. However, I'd recommend doing some more brainstorming on the name (provided this is the brand you've settled on, and not just the dev site). I know all too well that it's tough to find a good domain these days...but I think you can do better. I find that the average user's mind will have a hard time following ONE changed spelling convention. And you have two (the double-m & the double-p.) Jummp.in? Cool. Jumpp.in? Sure. Jummpp.in? A little too cumbersome to explain to my friends when we're hanging out (& have any chance of them remembering it).
- howard_yeh 16y agoya. but then with jumpp.in or jummp.in, it's hard to remember which of m or p is doubled
- chc 16y agoThat's a better problem than having the whole domain name be hard to remember. I guarantee you a lot of people will look at this site and go, "Holy cow, that name is total nonsense," because the two doubled letters in a row make it no longer resemble the word "jump" so much as a cat walking on a keyboard. Personally, my skim-reading more closely associates it with the word "app" than "jump," which makes me want to read it as "jumapp." My personal recommendation: For maximum readability, consider something like "letsjump.in". If you're attached to a quirkily spelled "jump in", "jumpp.in" is fairly readable.
- howard_yeh 16y agoi registered for both. so i now have jummp.in letsjump.in jummpp.in and incidentally, but completely unrelated, hummpp.me ;) which would should be the canonical? I am think letsjump.in? then in the future i can maybe buy jump.in, without having to rebrand
- lloyddobbler 16y agoNice. :) Incidentally, I agree with all of the above commentary. Unfortunately, it's the sad reality of trying to start up an online service/product/whatnot today. For the canonical, I like letsjump.in or gojump.in - and it's never too early to try and snag jump.in (the owner might be willing to part with it for less than you think). Good luck!
- mkramlich 16y agoneat idea, ugly name. but idea more important!
- jarin 16y agoIt's a pretty neat idea, I just created an event to see who wants to go see Inception. I'd add optional time/date and location fields for events that actually do have a set time and location. Looks like it might be Rails-based, so you can use the Chronic gem for easy natural-language time parsing (sort of like Plancast does).
- PhrosTT 16y agoi'd ignore everybody hating on the facebook login. this group is a little niche. it was probably a good decision for the first pass.
- megafotze 16y agodear retard, you suck and will be living from food stamps very soon
- Reedge 16y agoI suggest,make logo smaller, add video above the fold. Explain in images what you so, since you make me read a lot.