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Driving is a privilege, not a right. What proof are you looking for? And this is a thread about red light cameras. Is this confusing to you? What's the differe

Driving is a privilege, not a right. What proof are you looking for? And this is a thread about red light cameras. Is this confusing to you? What's the difference in "money grabbiness" between red light cameras and speed cameras? Is someone who disregards the one but not the other qualified to drive? And you seem to have missed it, but this article and the "engineer" isn't even claiming the devices are wrongfully ticketing.

stale2002 9y ago
Just because driving is a privilege, doesn't mean that it is ok for the government to use broken systems that do not accurately catch lawbreakers.
mulmen 9y ago
> You run red lights and think it's a "money grab"? There is no proof of your statement. You assumed guilt because the state sent a ticket to someone. Just because a ticket showed up in the mail does not mean the person is guilty of anything. So what if driving is a privilege? Can the government stop us at its whim from doing anything that isn't explicitly listed in the Bill of Rights? Red light cameras and speed cameras are both mindless automatons that are configured by fallible humans. They don't always work. I don't think a person's ability to drive should be judged by the findings of these machines. You seem to have missed it, but > Järlström was inspired by the $150 ticket his wife got in the mail in May after driving through an intersection with a red-light camera in Beaverton, Ore. His research showed that the mathematical formula used in the timing of yellow lights was outdated and unfair to drivers. > Järlström’s interest in traffic cameras has grown into a passion. He says the original formula for calculating the duration of yellow lights dates back to the 1950s and only accounts for cars driving in straight lines. Cars in turning lanes need more time to slow down and make a legal right-hand turn, he says.

stale2002 9y ago

Just because driving is a privilege, doesn't mean that it is ok for the government to use broken systems that do not accurately catch lawbreakers.

mulmen 9y ago

> You run red lights and think it's a "money grab"? There is no proof of your statement. You assumed guilt because the state sent a ticket to someone. Just because a ticket showed up in the mail does not mean the person is guilty of anything. So what if driving is a privilege? Can the government stop us at its whim from doing anything that isn't explicitly listed in the Bill of Rights? Red light cameras and speed cameras are both mindless automatons that are configured by fallible humans. They don't always work. I don't think a person's ability to drive should be judged by the findings of these machines. You seem to have missed it, but > Järlström was inspired by the $150 ticket his wife got in the mail in May after driving through an intersection with a red-light camera in Beaverton, Ore. His research showed that the mathematical formula used in the timing of yellow lights was outdated and unfair to drivers. > Järlström’s interest in traffic cameras has grown into a passion. He says the original formula for calculating the duration of yellow lights dates back to the 1950s and only accounts for cars driving in straight lines. Cars in turning lanes need more time to slow down and make a legal right-hand turn, he says.