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Find a citation yourself if it bothers you. Or you know, try to understand what im saying rather than nitpicking, pick another example like widespread racism a

Find a citation yourself if it bothers you. Or you know, try to understand what im saying rather than nitpicking, pick another example like widespread racism and genocide which was once common and now isnt. Also read this https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577 https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e...

adrianN 9y ago
If you claim something like "society is a tool to change people" you should provide some argument to convince people. Since this is just an Internet forum, it doesn't have to be a double blind study, but claiming that murder was okay before religion just seems wrong to me. I could equally claim that society is just a natural result of people living together and being forced to share resources and does exactly nothing to change human nature, in fact, it is just an expression of human nature.
- zaptheimpaler 9y ago
  I listed more examples above, such as how racism and discrimination were once widely accepted. I don't think I need to provide a citation for basic facts such as claims of racial/genetic superiority in the era of Hitler, or historical beliefs that white people were inherently superior to dark-skinned people for hundreds of years, of how ordinary people had no qualms in keeping "sub-human" blacks as slaves.. this is all extremely common knowledge to the point where citing it would be like citing "the earth is round-ish". I think if you take a charitable interpretation of what I'm saying as a basis for discussion and try to find things that SUPPORT the statements truth rather than counterexamples, you would see them and understand my argument. I really don't believe taking a purely adversarial stance and poking holes instead of attempting to first understand contributes the discussion usefully.

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Find a citation yourself if it bothers you. Or you know, try to understand what im saying rather than nitpicking, pick another example like widespread racism a

by zaptheimpaler 9y ago

adrianN 9y ago
If you claim something like "society is a tool to change people" you should provide some argument to convince people. Since this is just an Internet forum, it doesn't have to be a double blind study, but claiming that murder was okay before religion just seems wrong to me. I could equally claim that society is just a natural result of people living together and being forced to share resources and does exactly nothing to change human nature, in fact, it is just an expression of human nature.
- zaptheimpaler 9y ago
  I listed more examples above, such as how racism and discrimination were once widely accepted. I don't think I need to provide a citation for basic facts such as claims of racial/genetic superiority in the era of Hitler, or historical beliefs that white people were inherently superior to dark-skinned people for hundreds of years, of how ordinary people had no qualms in keeping "sub-human" blacks as slaves.. this is all extremely common knowledge to the point where citing it would be like citing "the earth is round-ish". I think if you take a charitable interpretation of what I'm saying as a basis for discussion and try to find things that SUPPORT the statements truth rather than counterexamples, you would see them and understand my argument. I really don't believe taking a purely adversarial stance and poking holes instead of attempting to first understand contributes the discussion usefully.