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I'm not sure you're aware of the real numbers? The amount of energy used for heating and cooling is extremely huge. Bitcoin is probably 0.0x% of that amount.

I'm not sure you're aware of the real numbers? The amount of energy used for heating and cooling is extremely huge. Bitcoin is probably 0.0x% of that amount. Internet is 2% of the whole CO2 emissions, heating and cooling is more than 30%. The industry pollution of China is so big you can't see their impact on CO2 emissions from their cars or their agriculture. The estimates for Bitcoin, as much as they sound big, they really are not. Cost in energy per transaction can only fall down with TPS increase (which is something lightning network, or bigger blocksize can do).

jacobr 9y ago
> The amount of energy used for heating and cooling is extremely huge. With the additional benefit that it keeps people warm/cool? Can you please tell me why you are not interested in solving this problem? My guess is that it is impossible to do with Bitcoin, and people dismissing the energy problems want to protect their investment rather than develop better technologies.
- nlperguiy 9y ago
  > With the additional benefit that it keeps people warm/cool? Most of that energy is wasted because of the architecture and irrational desire of 24/7 comfort AC blasting at the coolest setting. > Can you please tell me why you are not interested in solving this problem? My guess is that it is impossible to do with Bitcoin, and people dismissing the energy problems want to protect their investment rather than develop better technologies. Problem is solved easily by clean energy sources. There are bigger problems to solve, like heating and cooling, like CO2 footprint of animal agriculture, like deforestation of Amazon forest for Argentinian and Brazilian steak etc. We are here mostly programmers, we don't profile the code and then optimize the fastest function, but the biggest bottleneck. Bitcoin is no where near the bottleneck and all scaling solutions will require less energy per transaction. Problem is also automagically solved by the market. If mining gets to expensive to do, miners will figure out how to use less energy. For example, market is not solving all of the above environmental problems because, for example, there is not fair market in animal agriculture.

jacobr 9y ago

> The amount of energy used for heating and cooling is extremely huge. With the additional benefit that it keeps people warm/cool? Can you please tell me why you are not interested in solving this problem? My guess is that it is impossible to do with Bitcoin, and people dismissing the energy problems want to protect their investment rather than develop better technologies.

nlperguiy 9y ago
> With the additional benefit that it keeps people warm/cool? Most of that energy is wasted because of the architecture and irrational desire of 24/7 comfort AC blasting at the coolest setting. > Can you please tell me why you are not interested in solving this problem? My guess is that it is impossible to do with Bitcoin, and people dismissing the energy problems want to protect their investment rather than develop better technologies. Problem is solved easily by clean energy sources. There are bigger problems to solve, like heating and cooling, like CO2 footprint of animal agriculture, like deforestation of Amazon forest for Argentinian and Brazilian steak etc. We are here mostly programmers, we don't profile the code and then optimize the fastest function, but the biggest bottleneck. Bitcoin is no where near the bottleneck and all scaling solutions will require less energy per transaction. Problem is also automagically solved by the market. If mining gets to expensive to do, miners will figure out how to use less energy. For example, market is not solving all of the above environmental problems because, for example, there is not fair market in animal agriculture.