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I actually don't see much of a problem. These models are hired to have a chat with nerds, and the nerds are actually paid (directly and indirectly) to talk to t

I actually don't see much of a problem. These models are hired to have a chat with nerds, and the nerds are actually paid (directly and indirectly) to talk to them. Everyone is paid to be at that party and look reasonably good for the appearance of a good time. Most 'nerds' there don't enjoy being there either, they do it because they are professionals... like the models they are mingling with...? Any issue there? I mean, I rather enjoy talking to a model (female, or male in fact) -- it's not a business I understand, they are professionals with possibly quite interesting lifestyles and stories. Wildly different from the 'colleague' grade. I used to hang out with ballet dancers in a different lifetime, it was fascinating. Likewise, it's entirely possibly that models will be happy to work on their acting skills and so on to play that game. Perhaps the nerds can take a clue or two... It's not a strip club, it's no more degrading for the models as it is to the employees, who still have to put up and suck up to their managements -sometime abusive, in more subtle ways- for the sake of appearance (just not physical), so how different is it? Oh and remember, some models also like parties. In the wild days of the 90's at computer shows, most 'parties' ended up in 'afters' with a whole bunch of the show models, because if you throw a bunch of (then) young people from different backgrounds together with a corporate credit card, stuff is going to happen, after business hours.

Nullabillity 9y ago
Under that reasoning, why bother with the party to begin with?
- buserror 9y ago
  Because, appearances? I mean, in many companies, you have to appear at socials -- remember, execs have zero clues what you are doing, all they know is what they can see and touch.
vikasg 9y ago
It would be more honest --- still inappropriate --- for a company to take everyone out to a strip club where the rules of interaction are well-known. It's gross that a company would hire women and have them pretend to be employees solely for the gratification of the men. And no, it doesn't matter if there were a few male models. That's not appropriate either, but it's very clear that this is a practice aimed at men at male-dominated companies. The employer is not in the business of getting you off. Practices that try to do that inherently create an exclusionary environment. And if your defense against the blatant objectification of women described in this article is some variant of "oh but look at both sides" then I suggest that you look at human interaction in the context of history and not as a blank Jupyter notebook that you put numbers into.
xaedes 9y ago
> Any issue there? I mean, I rather enjoy talking to a model (female, or male in fact) -- it's not a business I understand, they are professionals with possibly quite interesting lifestyles and stories. Yea. True. But they have to pretend they are friends of employees. They lie to you. The company pays people to come and lie. It would be whole 'nother story if they would be upright about it.

Nullabillity 9y ago

Under that reasoning, why bother with the party to begin with?

buserror 9y ago
Because, appearances? I mean, in many companies, you have to appear at socials -- remember, execs have zero clues what you are doing, all they know is what they can see and touch.

vikasg 9y ago

It would be more honest --- still inappropriate --- for a company to take everyone out to a strip club where the rules of interaction are well-known. It's gross that a company would hire women and have them pretend to be employees solely for the gratification of the men. And no, it doesn't matter if there were a few male models. That's not appropriate either, but it's very clear that this is a practice aimed at men at male-dominated companies. The employer is not in the business of getting you off. Practices that try to do that inherently create an exclusionary environment. And if your defense against the blatant objectification of women described in this article is some variant of "oh but look at both sides" then I suggest that you look at human interaction in the context of history and not as a blank Jupyter notebook that you put numbers into.

xaedes 9y ago

> Any issue there? I mean, I rather enjoy talking to a model (female, or male in fact) -- it's not a business I understand, they are professionals with possibly quite interesting lifestyles and stories. Yea. True. But they have to pretend they are friends of employees. They lie to you. The company pays people to come and lie. It would be whole 'nother story if they would be upright about it.