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I think patreon should be way more precise to how much is going to the creator and how much they take when you make a pledge. When I pledge 1$ to some creator,

I think patreon should be way more precise to how much is going to the creator and how much they take when you make a pledge. When I pledge 1$ to some creator, I was unsure whether the creator would get the whole money and I would pay fees in addition, or if patreon would take the fee on those 1$.

astura 9y ago
Well, that's not at all unusual, 99.9% of credit card transactions you don't know the fee the merchant is paying.
- cdancette 9y ago
  I mean they should at least say how much the creator will receive, and how much he won't (patreon fees + credit card fees, I don't care about the details).
  - astura 9y ago
    Once again, when you donate to an charity or buy a product from the shelf you don't know how much the charity or retailer would receive when you pay with a credit card. Not unusual. When you check out in Walmart how much is the fee Walmart pays? You have (basically) no idea.
    - cdancette 9y ago
      Of course not, but it depends if you consider that you're paying the creator, and that the platform is just an intermediate, or if you're paying the platform for a service and they pay the creator with their revenue. If they're just an intermediate and I want to pledge 1$ to the creator, I expect that he will receive 1$, and if not, I want to know how much I need to give in order that he does. And you're wrong about NGOs, usually they do provide how your money will be used, what is the amount of money that will go for their internal costs, and what will be used really for charity. I wouldn't absolutely not give to a charity that would not provide me those details.
- kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
  I think the difference is that in one case I am dealing with Walmart (or whoever) and I don't care what they make as long as I get the promised services in return for that money. OTOH, on Patreon the messaging is that you are paying the creator, so I am kinda dealing with the creator with Patreon as the intermediary, and when it says I pledge $1, it feels like I am paying the creator $1 for their service.

astura 9y ago

Well, that's not at all unusual, 99.9% of credit card transactions you don't know the fee the merchant is paying.

cdancette 9y ago
I mean they should at least say how much the creator will receive, and how much he won't (patreon fees + credit card fees, I don't care about the details).
- astura 9y ago
  Once again, when you donate to an charity or buy a product from the shelf you don't know how much the charity or retailer would receive when you pay with a credit card. Not unusual. When you check out in Walmart how much is the fee Walmart pays? You have (basically) no idea.
  - cdancette 9y ago
    Of course not, but it depends if you consider that you're paying the creator, and that the platform is just an intermediate, or if you're paying the platform for a service and they pay the creator with their revenue. If they're just an intermediate and I want to pledge 1$ to the creator, I expect that he will receive 1$, and if not, I want to know how much I need to give in order that he does. And you're wrong about NGOs, usually they do provide how your money will be used, what is the amount of money that will go for their internal costs, and what will be used really for charity. I wouldn't absolutely not give to a charity that would not provide me those details.
kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
I think the difference is that in one case I am dealing with Walmart (or whoever) and I don't care what they make as long as I get the promised services in return for that money. OTOH, on Patreon the messaging is that you are paying the creator, so I am kinda dealing with the creator with Patreon as the intermediary, and when it says I pledge $1, it feels like I am paying the creator $1 for their service.