I wasn't talking about zebras in isolation, I was talking about something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8HJ2RJwcJM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

I wasn't talking about zebras in isolation, I was talking about something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8HJ2RJwcJM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8HJ2RJwcJM except there were more crocodiles and the zebras were forming less of a line. Yes, that individual zebra probably knew it was done for the second it was surrounded. Struggling didn't make a difference for itself, it made a difference for everybody else. And if the zebras had just stood there going "you first", they would ALL have died. That's the point. That's how we do, and I don't see anyone debating that main point. It's not even selfless, it's the difference between thinking in terms of quarterly profits and one's own comfort in one's own lifespan, and destroying the planet and society in the process. If you want to think of it in terms of DNA, if other humans survive then still more genes similar to your own get passed on than if NOBODY survives. > Courage is indispensible because in politics not life but the world is at stake. -- Hannah Arendt Who also often pointed out how many intellectuals have this talent to not see the woods for all the trees, and how talking about serious things with average people is often more fruitful. Chomsky made the same point, though I can't find the quote for him either.