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This is definitely the state of things. It's funny how people talk as if writing a web application is somehow inherently easier and more efficient than native a

by cpburns2009 9y ago

This is definitely the state of things. It's funny how people talk as if writing a web application is somehow inherently easier and more efficient than native applications. It's most certainly not the case. You have know at least 3 mediocre languages: HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. And then a separate server-side language if you're not a JavaScript fanboy, most likely a templating language server-side, and maybe even a client-side templating language if you're into that sort of thing. I'd gladly take Qt with C++ any day even though I only know enough C++ to shoot myself in the foot with.

blattimwind 9y ago
For a long time I thought that C++ was somehow a bad language (because that's the developer-talk-consensus, much like Java), but after I've written a decent amount (something like 100k loc or so as of now) in C++ I reversed my "opinion". C++ allows people to write code that requires intense study to understand (template magic etc.), but writing that code and getting it to work is very hard too, so there is actually very little of that around. Apart from that C++ is a good language which works well for developing applications (and Qt is a very good partner for it). And that's what really matters. (Another thing that comes to mind is that there is a huge amount of software for testing, analysing, introspecting and debugging C++ applications - I would say that most other ecosystems are lagging behind in that aspect)
- workthrowaway27 9y ago
  I think a lot of the broad criticism of C++ is from people who don't use it professionally and have a superficial understanding of it. Professionals usually have specific criticisms of C++ (based on actual problems) which non-professionals interpret as "everyone hates C++". I use C++ professionally and I'm rarely frustrated by it. The language is getting better over time, which is nice too.
  - favorited 9y ago
    I have the opposite impression. The people I've seen be the most critical of C++ are C++ compiler engineers.

blattimwind 9y ago

For a long time I thought that C++ was somehow a bad language (because that's the developer-talk-consensus, much like Java), but after I've written a decent amount (something like 100k loc or so as of now) in C++ I reversed my "opinion". C++ allows people to write code that requires intense study to understand (template magic etc.), but writing that code and getting it to work is very hard too, so there is actually very little of that around. Apart from that C++ is a good language which works well for developing applications (and Qt is a very good partner for it). And that's what really matters. (Another thing that comes to mind is that there is a huge amount of software for testing, analysing, introspecting and debugging C++ applications - I would say that most other ecosystems are lagging behind in that aspect)

workthrowaway27 9y ago
I think a lot of the broad criticism of C++ is from people who don't use it professionally and have a superficial understanding of it. Professionals usually have specific criticisms of C++ (based on actual problems) which non-professionals interpret as "everyone hates C++". I use C++ professionally and I'm rarely frustrated by it. The language is getting better over time, which is nice too.
- favorited 9y ago
  I have the opposite impression. The people I've seen be the most critical of C++ are C++ compiler engineers.