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Could cause 1200 deaths is definitely will cause 10 deaths and probably will definitely cause 300 deaths. Probably you mean, has caused x deaths directly inste
by wellboy 9y ago
Could cause 1200 deaths is definitely will cause 10 deaths and probably will definitely cause 300 deaths.
Probably you mean, has caused x deaths directly instead of has caused x deaths indirectly?
- credit_guy 9y agoNo. To be considered a criminal, you need to be found guilty of a crime, and for that the prosecutors need to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that you committed the act.
- andrepd 9y agoIt is proven that he was complicit in faking emissions tests, and it is proven that those extra emissions will lead to the premature deaths 100s of people.
- koenigdavidmj 9y agoThat’s quite simply not how the law works. To convict someone of murder, you need a direct causal link between VW’s actions (as opposed to another car company’s actions) and a particular person dying. Statistics games don’t cut it.
- yellow_postit 9y agoIn a case like this maybe statistics do need to play a larger role.
- koenigdavidmj 9y agoWe call that an ex post facto law.
- andrepd 9y agoThank you for the lesson, but I never said the man should be guilty of murder. I'm merely stating that since his actions lead to the death or injury of hundreds or thousands of people he should be duly penalised to dissuade future would-be law breakers.
- TheAdamAndChe 9y agoRight. It needs to be proved beyond all _reasonable_ doubt, not beyond _all_ doubt. It's reasonable to believe that this person committed a crime.
- wellboy 9y agoGood point. Furthermore, those deaths would have probably been caused anyway, since diesel technology doesn't suddenly make 2x less emissions. Maybe fewer diesels would have been sold, so there would have been 800 deaths instead of 1200 deaths, because the drivers would have bought one running on gas, but yeah, the law isn't designed for these number games.