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I do not really disagree with you, except for the '<-' bit, just map it to a keyboard shortcut, and move on :). But I would give R a try with the tidyverse, it

I do not really disagree with you, except for the '<-' bit, just map it to a keyboard shortcut, and move on :). But I would give R a try with the tidyverse, it made me go from hating R to just not caring about it. While libraries are extremely inconsistent, if you want to use cutting edge statistical methdos as a researcher, you pretty much have no other option. Finally, data wrangling is quite well developed in the R evironment. So long story short, after many years of hating R, now I just find it a handy tool to do my work despite it being old, inconsistent and sometimes annoying.

mannykannot 9y ago
I don't get how a keyboard shortcut deals with the '<-' issue, which is the occasional and subtle difference in semantics from '='. Even if you can pick just one for your own work, it doesn't help with other people's code. Tidyverse is new to me, I must check it out.
- baldfat 9y ago
  RStudio shortcut for <- is alt and -. Also Tidyverse and data.table are the main reason for the sudden explosion of R's popularity. For me I love the piping since I am an old time bash user and | becomes %>% in R is the best thing for the way i think.
  - mannykannot 9y ago
    Typing '<-' is a fairly trivial matter, I think, compared to the semantic issues raised at the start of this thread, and covered in the question and answers below - for example (from the chosen answer): "R's syntax contains many ambiguous cases that have to be resolved one way or another. The parser chooses to resolve the bits of the expression in different orders depending on whether = or <- was used." https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1741820/assignment-operators-in-r-and https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1741820/assignment-opera...
- Yeikoff 9y ago
  Just use the '<-' all the time, except in function calls. If you can use '<-' with an easy key press you will not be tempted to use '='. And the problem is greatly reduced. But yes, the problem is still there.

mannykannot 9y ago

I don't get how a keyboard shortcut deals with the '<-' issue, which is the occasional and subtle difference in semantics from '='. Even if you can pick just one for your own work, it doesn't help with other people's code. Tidyverse is new to me, I must check it out.

baldfat 9y ago
RStudio shortcut for <- is alt and -. Also Tidyverse and data.table are the main reason for the sudden explosion of R's popularity. For me I love the piping since I am an old time bash user and | becomes %>% in R is the best thing for the way i think.
- mannykannot 9y ago
  Typing '<-' is a fairly trivial matter, I think, compared to the semantic issues raised at the start of this thread, and covered in the question and answers below - for example (from the chosen answer): "R's syntax contains many ambiguous cases that have to be resolved one way or another. The parser chooses to resolve the bits of the expression in different orders depending on whether = or <- was used." https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1741820/assignment-operators-in-r-and https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1741820/assignment-opera...
Yeikoff 9y ago
Just use the '<-' all the time, except in function calls. If you can use '<-' with an easy key press you will not be tempted to use '='. And the problem is greatly reduced. But yes, the problem is still there.