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That is fairly helpful....however, I don't really even know what I want as far as skill set goes, and there is no way to submit a project and see if people are

That is fairly helpful....however, I don't really even know what I want as far as skill set goes, and there is no way to submit a project and see if people are interested, so I would have to pick people at random and just email them.....

cmelbye 16y ago
Start with "english", then figure out which skills you're looking for.
kls 16y ago
If you are looking for a rock bottom price, then you post it to a cheapa-coder.com site and have 6000 people promise you things that are unrealistic and then most likely outsource it out the back end to make the project remotely profitable for them. As far as skill set, is that not what you are looking for, someone to make those kind of decisions? Do you really care if it is Ruby or Java or do you care about the finished product. If the answer is yes to the finished product, then you may just want to take a more personal tact to your search. Read profiles, find someone who sounds like they would click with you and have them help you understand technically, what you are trying to build and explain how they would go about it. The skill set is about the most irrelevant item of your concern (unless you have existing technology, in which case you should already know what skill set you need). There are good and bad developers in every technology, but in the end whether Ruby, Scala or Java if you have a good developer you are going to get a quality product. Most developers will put in some legwork up front for free, to help you understand what you are trying to build and what is required to do it. If they are not willing to help you become comfortable, then move on, but don't expect them to start developing. They may do some wireframes and project planning for free but most will not prototype without entering into a financial arrangement. You will have far more success with taking this approach than the shotgun strategy of blasting your project out to below-average-coder.com. If you read the profiles and select 2 people that you think would mesh well with you, I can all but guarantee that out of the two one will suit you. I can't speak for every person on that site, but the ones that I do know are good developers, it is not your standard crap-shot-coders.com. If I came off terse, I apologize, I am trying to help you break out of the mental constraint that you have to have a lot of touch points to find what you want. I have found when it comes to quality, it is the exact opposite. Good developers generally avoid the crap shooting client and favor the more personal relationship clients that they can build a long term relationship with. They also will turn down projects that they don't posses the skill-set for and more importantly make the introduction to other developers that do have the skill set. Good developers have no shortage of work, they usually are not hunting around on post-a-project.com, they favor stuff that comes in through their network or from inquiries from entrepreneurs who seem like they have a passion for what they are doing and who don't seem like they will be difficult. If you want a good developer you need to get into that network and that is what I am trying to help you understand. I am not currently taking any projects, but if you want to shoot me an email (in my profile), I can help you find what you are looking for, I know some developers who are actively seeking new projects.
- daveyboy 16y ago
  Thanks. I appreciate the advice. I am not looking for rock bottom prices, because I am looking for top flight quality, I guess I just wish there was a freelance site where one could post an RFP and actually get quality. I appreciate the offer for help, I will be reaching out to you. Thanks
  - kls 16y ago
    I guess I just wish there was a freelance site where one could post an RFP and actually get quality I am scratching that itch right now, because I know it is a pain for the few that want/provide quality. I think I have a good take on it. But my partners and I are in the concept phase right now, so nothing to show.

cmelbye 16y ago

Start with "english", then figure out which skills you're looking for.

kls 16y ago

If you are looking for a rock bottom price, then you post it to a cheapa-coder.com site and have 6000 people promise you things that are unrealistic and then most likely outsource it out the back end to make the project remotely profitable for them. As far as skill set, is that not what you are looking for, someone to make those kind of decisions? Do you really care if it is Ruby or Java or do you care about the finished product. If the answer is yes to the finished product, then you may just want to take a more personal tact to your search. Read profiles, find someone who sounds like they would click with you and have them help you understand technically, what you are trying to build and explain how they would go about it. The skill set is about the most irrelevant item of your concern (unless you have existing technology, in which case you should already know what skill set you need). There are good and bad developers in every technology, but in the end whether Ruby, Scala or Java if you have a good developer you are going to get a quality product. Most developers will put in some legwork up front for free, to help you understand what you are trying to build and what is required to do it. If they are not willing to help you become comfortable, then move on, but don't expect them to start developing. They may do some wireframes and project planning for free but most will not prototype without entering into a financial arrangement. You will have far more success with taking this approach than the shotgun strategy of blasting your project out to below-average-coder.com. If you read the profiles and select 2 people that you think would mesh well with you, I can all but guarantee that out of the two one will suit you. I can't speak for every person on that site, but the ones that I do know are good developers, it is not your standard crap-shot-coders.com. If I came off terse, I apologize, I am trying to help you break out of the mental constraint that you have to have a lot of touch points to find what you want. I have found when it comes to quality, it is the exact opposite. Good developers generally avoid the crap shooting client and favor the more personal relationship clients that they can build a long term relationship with. They also will turn down projects that they don't posses the skill-set for and more importantly make the introduction to other developers that do have the skill set. Good developers have no shortage of work, they usually are not hunting around on post-a-project.com, they favor stuff that comes in through their network or from inquiries from entrepreneurs who seem like they have a passion for what they are doing and who don't seem like they will be difficult. If you want a good developer you need to get into that network and that is what I am trying to help you understand. I am not currently taking any projects, but if you want to shoot me an email (in my profile), I can help you find what you are looking for, I know some developers who are actively seeking new projects.

daveyboy 16y ago
Thanks. I appreciate the advice. I am not looking for rock bottom prices, because I am looking for top flight quality, I guess I just wish there was a freelance site where one could post an RFP and actually get quality. I appreciate the offer for help, I will be reaching out to you. Thanks
- kls 16y ago
  I guess I just wish there was a freelance site where one could post an RFP and actually get quality I am scratching that itch right now, because I know it is a pain for the few that want/provide quality. I think I have a good take on it. But my partners and I are in the concept phase right now, so nothing to show.