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Eh...I've worked in a few businesses that do this. Visual effects was the most notable. Also, in the US, isn't the government required to go with the lowest bi

Eh...I've worked in a few businesses that do this. Visual effects was the most notable. Also, in the US, isn't the government required to go with the lowest bidder to some degree on contracts?

Analemma_ 9y ago
Isn’t that an example of what the GP is taking about? I keep hearing the VFX business is terrible, with horrific overwork and low pay, for exactly that reason. See this article http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/feb/25/oscars-protest-life-of-pi http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/feb/25/oscars-protest-li... and this accompanying comment when it was posted to Reddit: http://reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1969o6/more_than_400_vfx_artists_protest_at_the_oscars/c8l8eg8 http://reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1969o6/more_than_400_vfx...
- JBlue42 9y ago
  Yes and yes, the conditions aren't great. I've heard video games is even worse (esp. EA). Edited: [long paragraph about vfx but the reddit link covers it exactly] I came across the same model when working with an architecture firm and it makes me wonder if maybe all client services, given the power disparity and need to please, isn't like this. Architecture is far more regulated of course but in the design stages I heard from people that were pissed that they were going to take a bath on a project (and look bad and have their numbers look bad) because an executive wanted to make sure that client was happy (such that they cut a mansion renovation down by 50%) or won't do an add service after a client completely throws stuff out the window and changes the scope of a project. At least in VFX there was OT and DT. I felt bad for architects that were highly educated, with subsequent loans, and working a lot of overtime but not being compensated for it. I'll stick with IT, even though that has its own issues. It sucks that this may be happening in farming, which isn't a 'sexy' industry like architecture or film, but our greater society as a whole seems more cutthroat and bargain-driven these days.

Eh...I've worked in a few businesses that do this. Visual effects was the most notable. Also, in the US, isn't the government required to go with the lowest bidder to some degree on contracts?

Analemma_ 9y ago

Isn’t that an example of what the GP is taking about? I keep hearing the VFX business is terrible, with horrific overwork and low pay, for exactly that reason. See this article http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/feb/25/oscars-protest-life-of-pi http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/feb/25/oscars-protest-li... and this accompanying comment when it was posted to Reddit: http://reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1969o6/more_than_400_vfx_artists_protest_at_the_oscars/c8l8eg8 http://reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1969o6/more_than_400_vfx...

JBlue42 9y ago
Yes and yes, the conditions aren't great. I've heard video games is even worse (esp. EA). Edited: [long paragraph about vfx but the reddit link covers it exactly] I came across the same model when working with an architecture firm and it makes me wonder if maybe all client services, given the power disparity and need to please, isn't like this. Architecture is far more regulated of course but in the design stages I heard from people that were pissed that they were going to take a bath on a project (and look bad and have their numbers look bad) because an executive wanted to make sure that client was happy (such that they cut a mansion renovation down by 50%) or won't do an add service after a client completely throws stuff out the window and changes the scope of a project. At least in VFX there was OT and DT. I felt bad for architects that were highly educated, with subsequent loans, and working a lot of overtime but not being compensated for it. I'll stick with IT, even though that has its own issues. It sucks that this may be happening in farming, which isn't a 'sexy' industry like architecture or film, but our greater society as a whole seems more cutthroat and bargain-driven these days.