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It's great to hear that this project is still going on, ReactOS is quite a milestone in terms of dedication and compatibility. I should try it in a VM again, m

by zaarn 9y ago

It's great to hear that this project is still going on, ReactOS is quite a milestone in terms of dedication and compatibility. I should try it in a VM again, maybe I can get my old VB6 IDE running again...

oneweekwonder 9y ago
> maybe I can get my old VB6 IDE running again... Why? Just run delphi 7 so that you at least will have sane exception handling ;) But on a more serious note I wonder how the lazarus-ide will do on ReactOS.
- zaarn 9y ago
  Mostly because VB6 is the IDE I learned programming with and I think I heavily used it until '06, at which point I switched to C# and .NET and much other fun. Mostly for Nostalgia...
  - ianai 9y ago
    That’s where I learned programming as well. Around that time someone hooked me up with a VB 1.0 IDE. It ran on windows 3,iirc. Or was it straight DOS? Talk about blast from the past.
    - mattl 9y ago
      There was a VB 1.0 for DOS, but also a 1.0 for Windows released earlier I believe. VB for DOS was a bit of a dog, IIRC.
  - scoggs 9y ago
    You bringing up VB6 made me smile. Anything VB makes me nostalgic as well. During Thanksgiving I talked to my Uncle who gave my family our first computer and also asked him if he remembered giving me his old copy of VB 3.0 to install. We couldn't remember if it was 20-something or 30-something 3.5" floppy disks but I remember feeling really cool being the only person out of my programmer buddies who had a legit VB 3.0 install.
rnd0 9y ago
On my desktop, it seems to work pretty well in Virtualbox -at least until I tried to install Office 2010 on it. It doesn't seem to deal well with the audio and network drivers, though. I had no luck installing visual studio 6 in my vm. My old copy of borland 5 seems to be installing just fine, though. Edit: I may have spoken too soon; I had to run bcw.exe manually, and got a message about 16 bit WoW not being supported.
SirFatty 9y ago
Or just install XP in a VM, then VB6 will work for sure.
CJKerr 9y ago
The VB6 IDE is distressingly easy to get running on modern versions of Windows - this is fortunate, since we still need to support it, but upsetting, since it diminishes the incentive for killing it off.
- meredydd 9y ago
  The resistance to "killing off" VB6 is in large part based on there being nothing as good to replace it. Unless you're willing to pay thousands for a Delphi licence, your only options are: 1. Modern .NET for desktop apps, whose many semi-obsolete UI frameworks make Java's UI tools look simple 2. Learning HTML/JS/React/Redux/CSS/Bootstrap/Python/Django/SQL/SQLAlchemy/Webpack... Neither is likely to appeal to someone used to how easily applications could be created in VB6 or Delphi. (I believe this so strongly I cofounded https://anvil.works https://anvil.works, which is basically VB6/Delphi for the web. That's not so much a disclaimer, I guess, as putting my money where my mouth is :-P)
  - int_19h 9y ago
    If you're trying to replace VB6, the only UI framework to consider on .NET would be WinForms, anyway. Which is obsolete, but still supported. I don't see how Delphi + VCL is any easier than C# + WinForms, especially given that the latter is a GC language.
  - SyneRyder 9y ago
    There's also Xojo, which used to be called REALbasic. It's a cross platform (Mac/Windows/Linux) IDE similar to Visual Basic, with the indie developer community of the earlier Delphi versions, and a much cheaper price point (essentially $99 per platform): https://www.xojo.com/visualbasic/ https://www.xojo.com/visualbasic/

by zaarn 9y ago

oneweekwonder 9y ago

> maybe I can get my old VB6 IDE running again... Why? Just run delphi 7 so that you at least will have sane exception handling ;) But on a more serious note I wonder how the lazarus-ide will do on ReactOS.

zaarn 9y ago
Mostly because VB6 is the IDE I learned programming with and I think I heavily used it until '06, at which point I switched to C# and .NET and much other fun. Mostly for Nostalgia...
- ianai 9y ago
  That’s where I learned programming as well. Around that time someone hooked me up with a VB 1.0 IDE. It ran on windows 3,iirc. Or was it straight DOS? Talk about blast from the past.
  - mattl 9y ago
    There was a VB 1.0 for DOS, but also a 1.0 for Windows released earlier I believe. VB for DOS was a bit of a dog, IIRC.
- scoggs 9y ago
  You bringing up VB6 made me smile. Anything VB makes me nostalgic as well. During Thanksgiving I talked to my Uncle who gave my family our first computer and also asked him if he remembered giving me his old copy of VB 3.0 to install. We couldn't remember if it was 20-something or 30-something 3.5" floppy disks but I remember feeling really cool being the only person out of my programmer buddies who had a legit VB 3.0 install.

rnd0 9y ago

On my desktop, it seems to work pretty well in Virtualbox -at least until I tried to install Office 2010 on it. It doesn't seem to deal well with the audio and network drivers, though. I had no luck installing visual studio 6 in my vm. My old copy of borland 5 seems to be installing just fine, though. Edit: I may have spoken too soon; I had to run bcw.exe manually, and got a message about 16 bit WoW not being supported.

SirFatty 9y ago

Or just install XP in a VM, then VB6 will work for sure.

CJKerr 9y ago

The VB6 IDE is distressingly easy to get running on modern versions of Windows - this is fortunate, since we still need to support it, but upsetting, since it diminishes the incentive for killing it off.

meredydd 9y ago
The resistance to "killing off" VB6 is in large part based on there being nothing as good to replace it. Unless you're willing to pay thousands for a Delphi licence, your only options are: 1. Modern .NET for desktop apps, whose many semi-obsolete UI frameworks make Java's UI tools look simple 2. Learning HTML/JS/React/Redux/CSS/Bootstrap/Python/Django/SQL/SQLAlchemy/Webpack... Neither is likely to appeal to someone used to how easily applications could be created in VB6 or Delphi. (I believe this so strongly I cofounded https://anvil.works https://anvil.works, which is basically VB6/Delphi for the web. That's not so much a disclaimer, I guess, as putting my money where my mouth is :-P)
- int_19h 9y ago
  If you're trying to replace VB6, the only UI framework to consider on .NET would be WinForms, anyway. Which is obsolete, but still supported. I don't see how Delphi + VCL is any easier than C# + WinForms, especially given that the latter is a GC language.
- SyneRyder 9y ago
  There's also Xojo, which used to be called REALbasic. It's a cross platform (Mac/Windows/Linux) IDE similar to Visual Basic, with the indie developer community of the earlier Delphi versions, and a much cheaper price point (essentially $99 per platform): https://www.xojo.com/visualbasic/ https://www.xojo.com/visualbasic/