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> Blocking sales of Apple TV and Chromecasts on Amazon.com Did they block them, or do they simple not carry them? It is completely different.

ehsankia 9y ago
Could you explain the difference? Are you saying that Google specifically doesn't want their product on Amazon, because that would be insane.
- noncoml 9y ago
  1. Blocking sales, is Google or somebody else trying to open a merchant account to sell Google products and Amazon blocking them. 2. Not carrying them, is Amazon simply not having an interest in carrying the item as a retailer. Aren't they two completely different things?
  - Spare_account 9y ago
    Both are true. No-one, Amazon directly or Marketplace resellers, is allowed to sell Chromecast on Amazon.
    - jhasse 9y ago
      Well, Amazon directly is allowed. They just don't want to ;)
    - jacksmith21006 9y ago
      Plus give you a Fire stick when search on a chromecast.
- eisregen_ 9y ago
  Amazon is a marketplace where everyone can sell anything (legal). Well except AppleTV and Google Chromecasts because they are blocked. If they wouldn't just be listed, no reseller would have a offer listed with said product on amazon
ikeboy 9y ago
It's blocked. Nobody is allowed to sell them even as a third party on Amazon.
sah2ed 9y ago
Amazon blocked sales of Apple and Google streaming devices some years ago and was discussed heavily on HN. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10312938 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10312938
jacksmith21006 9y ago
Amazon blocked them. Amazon anti competitive behavior is finally being checked by Google.
- ocdtrekkie 9y ago
  Google actually made the first anticompetitive move against Amazon, but everyone forgot it, because Google is really good at PR.
  - RestlessMind 9y ago
    Which one was that? Any citation?
    - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
      Google's Mobile Applications Distribution Agreement, or MADA, is a license requirement for access to any of Google's Android apps, including the app that actually is required to set up devices like the Chromecast. The MADA has anticompetitive terms, not just prohibiting signatories from developing Android forks, like Fire OS, but requiring any devices with Google apps include all of Google's mandatory apps, including many apps which compete directly with Amazon's own offerings. In short, it is not reasonably possible for Amazon to sign the MADA. Amazon is therefore blocked from offering apps like the Chromecast app to set up Chromecasts for use with their hardware. Just as Apple does not sell hardware in it's stores which don't work with their devices, and Google does not sell hardware on their site which doesn't work with their devices, Amazon chose to not sell products which don't work with their devices.
      - vinay427 9y ago
        Just to clarify, does this mean Amazon has no feasible way if adding support to control a Chromecast from their devices (e.g. Kindle Fire)?
        ocdtrekkie 9y ago
jacksmith21006 9y ago
Blocked and then gave you a Fire stick when search on a chromecast.

ehsankia 9y ago

Could you explain the difference? Are you saying that Google specifically doesn't want their product on Amazon, because that would be insane.

noncoml 9y ago
1. Blocking sales, is Google or somebody else trying to open a merchant account to sell Google products and Amazon blocking them. 2. Not carrying them, is Amazon simply not having an interest in carrying the item as a retailer. Aren't they two completely different things?
- Spare_account 9y ago
  Both are true. No-one, Amazon directly or Marketplace resellers, is allowed to sell Chromecast on Amazon.
  - jhasse 9y ago
    Well, Amazon directly is allowed. They just don't want to ;)
  - jacksmith21006 9y ago
    Plus give you a Fire stick when search on a chromecast.
eisregen_ 9y ago
Amazon is a marketplace where everyone can sell anything (legal). Well except AppleTV and Google Chromecasts because they are blocked. If they wouldn't just be listed, no reseller would have a offer listed with said product on amazon

ikeboy 9y ago

It's blocked. Nobody is allowed to sell them even as a third party on Amazon.

sah2ed 9y ago

Amazon blocked sales of Apple and Google streaming devices some years ago and was discussed heavily on HN. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10312938 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10312938

jacksmith21006 9y ago

Amazon blocked them. Amazon anti competitive behavior is finally being checked by Google.

ocdtrekkie 9y ago
Google actually made the first anticompetitive move against Amazon, but everyone forgot it, because Google is really good at PR.
- RestlessMind 9y ago
  Which one was that? Any citation?
  - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
    Google's Mobile Applications Distribution Agreement, or MADA, is a license requirement for access to any of Google's Android apps, including the app that actually is required to set up devices like the Chromecast. The MADA has anticompetitive terms, not just prohibiting signatories from developing Android forks, like Fire OS, but requiring any devices with Google apps include all of Google's mandatory apps, including many apps which compete directly with Amazon's own offerings. In short, it is not reasonably possible for Amazon to sign the MADA. Amazon is therefore blocked from offering apps like the Chromecast app to set up Chromecasts for use with their hardware. Just as Apple does not sell hardware in it's stores which don't work with their devices, and Google does not sell hardware on their site which doesn't work with their devices, Amazon chose to not sell products which don't work with their devices.
    - vinay427 9y ago
      Just to clarify, does this mean Amazon has no feasible way if adding support to control a Chromecast from their devices (e.g. Kindle Fire)?
      - ocdtrekkie 9y ago

jacksmith21006 9y ago

Blocked and then gave you a Fire stick when search on a chromecast.