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Here's a study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3828709/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3828709/ > Gun ownership was a significant p

Here's a study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3828709/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3828709/ > Gun ownership was a significant predictor of firearm homicide rates (incidence rate ratio = 1.009; 95% confidence interval = 1.004, 1.014). This model indicated that for each percentage point increase in gun ownership, the firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9%. Firearms ownership rate doesn't correlate directly to firearms crime rates, but the change in ownership does.

piokoch 9y ago
First of all that research is correlation study, so equally well we can argue that increasing number of homicides in some area made people to buy more guns to defend themselves. Secondly, this research looks only on guns vs. homicides, I would say that there could be a few other factors that might be more stronger then guns (poverty level, drugs abuse level, local society structure, etc.) - this is speculation, but I don't see that researches even looked on possible other factors that can potentially explain higer/lower homicide rate.
- alkonaut 9y ago
  > so equally well we can argue that increasing number of homicides in some area made people to buy more guns to defend themselves. And taking that reasoning one step further I'm going to argue that in places where guns are prevalent/accepted, people might think a gun can be used for self defense, so more guns actually lead to even more guns. Whereas in places where guns are scarce and unaccepted, they are less likely to be seen as tools for self defense, so a neighborhood having more guns does not lead to others buying guns. So I'm arguing both things happen. If you have a culture of gun ownership then more guns will lead to both more homicides and more guns. But if there is no cultural belief in guns as self protection, then that correlation doesn't occur.
yAnonymous 9y ago
Switzerland is proof that gun ownership and homicides are not necessarily related. Education and intelligence are probably the main factors here. So if there is a measurable relation between the two, it says more about the sad state of the society where the tests were conducted.
- galobtter 9y ago
  It still causes suicides - https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/switzerland-s-troubling-record-of-suicide/8301804 https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/switzerland-s-troubling-record-...
  - yAnonymous 9y ago
    Causes? The numbers don't show that at all and you don't seem to be very good at interpreting them. If anything, it might just be a better (easier) way to go. Switzerland also allow assisted suicide. They have a different attitude in that regard. Why make it difficult for someone who wants to go?

piokoch 9y ago

First of all that research is correlation study, so equally well we can argue that increasing number of homicides in some area made people to buy more guns to defend themselves. Secondly, this research looks only on guns vs. homicides, I would say that there could be a few other factors that might be more stronger then guns (poverty level, drugs abuse level, local society structure, etc.) - this is speculation, but I don't see that researches even looked on possible other factors that can potentially explain higer/lower homicide rate.

alkonaut 9y ago
> so equally well we can argue that increasing number of homicides in some area made people to buy more guns to defend themselves. And taking that reasoning one step further I'm going to argue that in places where guns are prevalent/accepted, people might think a gun can be used for self defense, so more guns actually lead to even more guns. Whereas in places where guns are scarce and unaccepted, they are less likely to be seen as tools for self defense, so a neighborhood having more guns does not lead to others buying guns. So I'm arguing both things happen. If you have a culture of gun ownership then more guns will lead to both more homicides and more guns. But if there is no cultural belief in guns as self protection, then that correlation doesn't occur.

yAnonymous 9y ago

Switzerland is proof that gun ownership and homicides are not necessarily related. Education and intelligence are probably the main factors here. So if there is a measurable relation between the two, it says more about the sad state of the society where the tests were conducted.

galobtter 9y ago
It still causes suicides - https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/switzerland-s-troubling-record-of-suicide/8301804 https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/switzerland-s-troubling-record-...
- yAnonymous 9y ago
  Causes? The numbers don't show that at all and you don't seem to be very good at interpreting them. If anything, it might just be a better (easier) way to go. Switzerland also allow assisted suicide. They have a different attitude in that regard. Why make it difficult for someone who wants to go?