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Well, the US legalizes gay marriage and now they have Trump. Rebuttal?

by Tyco 9y ago

IntelMiner 9y ago
Correlation is not causation
avip 9y ago
Aussies banned shotguns and were punished with a terrible drought.
wor3q 9y ago
Cancer causes cellphones
rusk 9y ago
I think there may be something to this. Though perhaps a better term than "rebuttal" is "backlash". The conservative backlash has long been mooted by social commentators. It's likely a large cohort of Trumps voters were those who were incensed by "central government interfering in local affairs", in particular the case of Kim Davis springs to mind. Never mind that Trump doesn't exactly embody conservatism, I'd imagine a large amount of conservative voters, alarmed by social progress would have voted him out of spite. Of course, now I like to think that the current wave of high-profile sexual impropriety cases is similarly a sparked by the more socially liberal sectors of society against the misogyny embodied by Trump and the socially conservative segments.
- Banthum 9y ago
  "I like to think that the current wave of high-profile sexual impropriety cases is similarly a sparked by the more socially liberal sectors of society against the misogyny embodied by Trump and the socially conservative segments." What? Pretty much every harasser and rapist revealed recently has been a moderate-to-active liberal. Weinstein himself gave generously to Hillary. How do you spin this as righteous leftists getting rid of those bad conservatives when all the perps are full-throated leftist donors, activists, and supporters? I'm sorry but this strikes me as just surreal.
  - rusk 9y ago
    Yeah that's the beauty of it. It's the left getting their house in order before they go for the right. Also, I never said "left" and "right", or anything to do with political allegiances. These topics transcend political identity.
    - saladeen 9y ago
      > These topics transcend political identity. Yup, that's why you had to go with 'hurrrrr Trump!'
      - rusk 9y ago
        Didn't 'hurrrr' anything. His indiscretions are widely known. As are Bill Clinton's.
        saladeen 9y ago
        You're avoiding my point. But that's ok.
        rusk 9y ago
        What kind of point could a 'hurrr'-type statement ever be making.
  - Xylakant 9y ago
    > Pretty much every harasser and rapist revealed recently has been a moderate-to-active liberal. Weinstein himself gave generously to Hillary. That's a pretty tough statement to make when the GOP and Trump just endorsed Roy Moore for the senate race in Alabama because they need the seat.
- minikites 9y ago
  >I'd imagine a large amount of conservative voters, alarmed by social progress would have voted him out of spite. Most conservatives are driven almost entirely by spite: http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/29/17971903-to-fight-climate-change-dont-mention-it-study-suggests?lite http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/29/17971903-to-figh... >When the more expensive CFLs were sold without environmental messaging — but touted the fact that CFLs last 9,000 hours longer than the less expensive incandescent bulbs and reduce energy costs by 75 percent — more conservatives bought them. >The ideological divide was strongest when energy efficiency was tied to the environmental message of reducing carbon emissions. See also: the entire concept of "rolling coal" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal).
  - rusk 9y ago
    I hadn't heard of that. Rolling Coal. What a terrifically hilarious concept, and terrifying at the same time.
  - Nursie 9y ago
    Oh wow, that's insane. I know, I'll poison the air around myself, that'll make those damn liberals crazy!
  - mratzloff 9y ago
    Their kids will grow up with asthma, but at least they trolled the liberals.
- tomjen3 9y ago
  Really, you are arguing that Harvey Weinstein is a conservative? I mean I rarely write LOL on this page, but I am literally sitting here and doing that. And yes Roy More, but he wasn't the first and he doesn't seem like he will be the last.
  - rusk 9y ago
    How did you make out that I said he was a conservative? I was drawing on the fact that a lot of conservative voters hold deeply misogynistic worldviews, so yeah I would lump them all into the one category, that defies politics.
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Well, the US legalizes gay marriage and now they have Trump. Rebuttal?

by Tyco 9y ago

Well, the US legalizes gay marriage and now they have Trump. Rebuttal?

IntelMiner 9y ago

Correlation is not causation

avip 9y ago

Aussies banned shotguns and were punished with a terrible drought.

wor3q 9y ago

Cancer causes cellphones

rusk 9y ago

I think there may be something to this. Though perhaps a better term than "rebuttal" is "backlash". The conservative backlash has long been mooted by social commentators. It's likely a large cohort of Trumps voters were those who were incensed by "central government interfering in local affairs", in particular the case of Kim Davis springs to mind. Never mind that Trump doesn't exactly embody conservatism, I'd imagine a large amount of conservative voters, alarmed by social progress would have voted him out of spite. Of course, now I like to think that the current wave of high-profile sexual impropriety cases is similarly a sparked by the more socially liberal sectors of society against the misogyny embodied by Trump and the socially conservative segments.

Banthum 9y ago
"I like to think that the current wave of high-profile sexual impropriety cases is similarly a sparked by the more socially liberal sectors of society against the misogyny embodied by Trump and the socially conservative segments." What? Pretty much every harasser and rapist revealed recently has been a moderate-to-active liberal. Weinstein himself gave generously to Hillary. How do you spin this as righteous leftists getting rid of those bad conservatives when all the perps are full-throated leftist donors, activists, and supporters? I'm sorry but this strikes me as just surreal.
- rusk 9y ago
  Yeah that's the beauty of it. It's the left getting their house in order before they go for the right. Also, I never said "left" and "right", or anything to do with political allegiances. These topics transcend political identity.
  - saladeen 9y ago
    > These topics transcend political identity. Yup, that's why you had to go with 'hurrrrr Trump!'
    - rusk 9y ago
      Didn't 'hurrrr' anything. His indiscretions are widely known. As are Bill Clinton's.
      - saladeen 9y ago
        You're avoiding my point. But that's ok.
        rusk 9y ago
        What kind of point could a 'hurrr'-type statement ever be making.
- Xylakant 9y ago
  > Pretty much every harasser and rapist revealed recently has been a moderate-to-active liberal. Weinstein himself gave generously to Hillary. That's a pretty tough statement to make when the GOP and Trump just endorsed Roy Moore for the senate race in Alabama because they need the seat.
minikites 9y ago
>I'd imagine a large amount of conservative voters, alarmed by social progress would have voted him out of spite. Most conservatives are driven almost entirely by spite: http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/29/17971903-to-fight-climate-change-dont-mention-it-study-suggests?lite http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/29/17971903-to-figh... >When the more expensive CFLs were sold without environmental messaging — but touted the fact that CFLs last 9,000 hours longer than the less expensive incandescent bulbs and reduce energy costs by 75 percent — more conservatives bought them. >The ideological divide was strongest when energy efficiency was tied to the environmental message of reducing carbon emissions. See also: the entire concept of "rolling coal" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal).
- rusk 9y ago
  I hadn't heard of that. Rolling Coal. What a terrifically hilarious concept, and terrifying at the same time.
- Nursie 9y ago
  Oh wow, that's insane. I know, I'll poison the air around myself, that'll make those damn liberals crazy!
- mratzloff 9y ago
  Their kids will grow up with asthma, but at least they trolled the liberals.
tomjen3 9y ago
Really, you are arguing that Harvey Weinstein is a conservative? I mean I rarely write LOL on this page, but I am literally sitting here and doing that. And yes Roy More, but he wasn't the first and he doesn't seem like he will be the last.
- rusk 9y ago
  How did you make out that I said he was a conservative? I was drawing on the fact that a lot of conservative voters hold deeply misogynistic worldviews, so yeah I would lump them all into the one category, that defies politics.

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