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A lot of people are talking about 50 years like it was a super long time, and propose solutions that are really intended for hundreds to thousands of years. I t
by kabdib 16y ago
A lot of people are talking about 50 years like it was a super long time, and propose solutions that are really intended for hundreds to thousands of years. I think it's overkill. [Also I think a lot of you are under 30 :-) ]
For only 50 years, I'd probably risk making many thousands of DVDs and CDs, using different manufacturers and drives. Store with tons of redundancy and ECC, don't use inner / outer tracks for anything important, etc.
Also, are all of the data equally important? You can afford to store the more critical pieces in more expensive and less compact, but more robust formats.
I think the real enemy is obsolescence, and that keeping the data simple (and providing decompression programs and indices in easily understandable formats) is likely more important than worrying about bit-dropout, which seems largely manageable over your specified time.
For 500 years, I'd print it, or micro-inscribe it. (One problem with printed matter is that it has other inherent value, e.g., fuel for heating the yurts of cold barbarians).
For 5K years, micro-inscription and (if you are worried about technological crashes) an archive in the sky. You could populate a host of satellites in various orbits, timed to re-enter at intervals of (say) a decade over a few thousand years (hard to be exact with atmospheric drag and climate change, but you get my drift). Getting something from orbit down to the ground is not hard, getting /noticed/ and picked up as an interesting artifact is probably harder.
For 5M years, add a metric buttload of ECC and stick it in the DNA of some critter that doesn't get out much. A bottom-feeder in a radiation-shielded environment would be cool. Say, a lobster.
- ugh 16y agoCompact Cassettes are now in their 47th year of production, still going strong in developing countries. I’m willing to bet that you will still be able to buy cassettes and players in twenty years. The story for CDs seems to me to be similar and they are still popular everywhere. I give them at least another forty to fifty years.
- parallax7d 16y agoI love the lobster idea. It would be even better if the lobsters survival was based on the integrity of the data. This would provide evolutionary ECC. You would also need some mechanism to signal people in the far future that the lobsters were data carrying devices. Otherwise they wouldn't have any reason to randomly decode sea creatures. Perhaps you could program the lobsters to develop spots on their shells every century which denote the first 10 prime numbers.
- crpatino 16y agoA religion that worships the lobster-god?
- jbert 16y agoThe DNA idea is great. You'd need a long "this is a message" intro, say a long ATATATATAT repeating sequence (much too long to occur by chance). As you say, you can use forward error correction to preserve the data. The hard part is describing the data format to the reader. From the ATATA...intro, a reader knows they have a message. But now they need to know how to interpret it. You need a way of encoding information (english text?) in DNA and you also need a way of describing that encoding mechanism in DNA too... Basically, over 5k years you should look up all the protocols SETI people have thought up. And/or re-read Gödel, Escher Bach.