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I wonder though who is serving you those ads? If it's running a 'hacked' version of the Youtube app, could Amazon be the one serving you "Youtube" ads?

nyrikki 9y ago
It is Google serving the ads, if you have Youtube Red you see zero ads on the firetv with youtube. The unfortunate that the Chromecast ultra etc...are braindead devices that require a phone or tablet to even use. I probably use my FireTV as a youtube interface more than any other type of content and pay for Youtube Red. I will most likely just drop my Youtube Red account and move onto more traditional content producers due to the poor UI on Chromecast and Google's decision here. The fact that Google is making me suffer for their partnership details demonstrates that they don't value us as customers.
- tacomonstrous 9y ago
  >The fact that Google is making me suffer for their partnership details demonstrates that they don't value us as customers. It's a tough position for them, since Amazon has been blatantly inimical to consumers of Google products for years. It seems like they finally decided to use the point of leverage they have.
  - nyrikki 9y ago
    If they produced a device that was compelling or competitive, remember with Chromecast, content must be sent from a compatible device. But a quick search shows that the Chromecast Ultra is available at the following locations near me. Fred Meyer, Best Buy, WalMart, Bed Bath & Beyond, Target etc... Plus thousands of online stores. It isn't like Amazon is the only place to buy these devices. The difference is that to sell content they need to be inside peoples homes. They just made the decision that they don't want to sell content/ads to Fire TV users. Except for vendor lock in, which is why they want to sell ChromeCast devices, they have made the decision that their content consumers are less important to them than their device sales. Last I looked YouTube made money from ad views and/or subscriptions and not through device sales.
    - tacomonstrous 9y ago
      I don't understand how anything you're saying addresses the fact that Amazon is deliberately sabotaging their product for users of Google hardware. Years of consumer complaints haven't solved the issue. So what's the resolution? I'm not saying this is a great move by Google, but if it results in Amazon finally supporting my Prime membership to the same extent it does for Fire TV owners, then I'll take it.
      - nyrikki 9y ago
        > Subscribed: Feb 15, 2016 I have never had a problem with youtube on Fire TV, which is the reason I subscribed to YouTube Red. Amazon failing to support ChromeCast doesn't justify throwing your customers under the bus. Which is exactly what YouTube chose to do.
        tacomonstrous 9y ago
        My question is: if Amazon doesn't want to resolve this in good faith, then what other avenues does Google have?
        kbwt 9y ago
        None, because Google itself is engaging in anti-competitive behavior left and right. They sure as hell aren't going to lobby for the government to crack down on these practices when they are so dependent on keeping the status quo.
        jacksmith21006 9y ago
        This one is on Amazon not Google. Amazon anti competitive behavior had to be stopped. Amazon has now pulled Twitch from the Roku.
    - jacksmith21006 9y ago
      The problem is Amazon anti competitive behavior. Amazon banning the Chromecast from the Amazon marketplace while Google allows Amazon to use them is ridiculous. Now Amazon has pulled Twitch from the Roku. Amazon anti competitive behavior had to be checked and this appears to be the only way. Heck Google created the Chromecast in 2013 and then added a YT app to the Roku or the opposite of Amazon anti competitive behavior. http://www.cordcuttersnews.com/amazon-pulls-twitch-channel-roku/ http://www.cordcuttersnews.com/amazon-pulls-twitch-channel-r... Amazon Pulls Their Twitch Channel from Roku - Cord Cutters News
- jacksmith21006 9y ago
  Amazon is at fault here not Google. Amazon has now pulled Twitch from the Roku. Hopefully Google can stop Amazon anti competitive behavior. Heck Google created the Chromecast and then added YouTube support to the Roku.

nyrikki 9y ago

It is Google serving the ads, if you have Youtube Red you see zero ads on the firetv with youtube. The unfortunate that the Chromecast ultra etc...are braindead devices that require a phone or tablet to even use. I probably use my FireTV as a youtube interface more than any other type of content and pay for Youtube Red. I will most likely just drop my Youtube Red account and move onto more traditional content producers due to the poor UI on Chromecast and Google's decision here. The fact that Google is making me suffer for their partnership details demonstrates that they don't value us as customers.

tacomonstrous 9y ago
>The fact that Google is making me suffer for their partnership details demonstrates that they don't value us as customers. It's a tough position for them, since Amazon has been blatantly inimical to consumers of Google products for years. It seems like they finally decided to use the point of leverage they have.
- nyrikki 9y ago
  If they produced a device that was compelling or competitive, remember with Chromecast, content must be sent from a compatible device. But a quick search shows that the Chromecast Ultra is available at the following locations near me. Fred Meyer, Best Buy, WalMart, Bed Bath & Beyond, Target etc... Plus thousands of online stores. It isn't like Amazon is the only place to buy these devices. The difference is that to sell content they need to be inside peoples homes. They just made the decision that they don't want to sell content/ads to Fire TV users. Except for vendor lock in, which is why they want to sell ChromeCast devices, they have made the decision that their content consumers are less important to them than their device sales. Last I looked YouTube made money from ad views and/or subscriptions and not through device sales.
  - tacomonstrous 9y ago
    I don't understand how anything you're saying addresses the fact that Amazon is deliberately sabotaging their product for users of Google hardware. Years of consumer complaints haven't solved the issue. So what's the resolution? I'm not saying this is a great move by Google, but if it results in Amazon finally supporting my Prime membership to the same extent it does for Fire TV owners, then I'll take it.
    - nyrikki 9y ago
      > Subscribed: Feb 15, 2016 I have never had a problem with youtube on Fire TV, which is the reason I subscribed to YouTube Red. Amazon failing to support ChromeCast doesn't justify throwing your customers under the bus. Which is exactly what YouTube chose to do.
      - tacomonstrous 9y ago
        My question is: if Amazon doesn't want to resolve this in good faith, then what other avenues does Google have?
        kbwt 9y ago
        None, because Google itself is engaging in anti-competitive behavior left and right. They sure as hell aren't going to lobby for the government to crack down on these practices when they are so dependent on keeping the status quo.
        jacksmith21006 9y ago
        This one is on Amazon not Google. Amazon anti competitive behavior had to be stopped. Amazon has now pulled Twitch from the Roku.
  - jacksmith21006 9y ago
    The problem is Amazon anti competitive behavior. Amazon banning the Chromecast from the Amazon marketplace while Google allows Amazon to use them is ridiculous. Now Amazon has pulled Twitch from the Roku. Amazon anti competitive behavior had to be checked and this appears to be the only way. Heck Google created the Chromecast in 2013 and then added a YT app to the Roku or the opposite of Amazon anti competitive behavior. http://www.cordcuttersnews.com/amazon-pulls-twitch-channel-roku/ http://www.cordcuttersnews.com/amazon-pulls-twitch-channel-r... Amazon Pulls Their Twitch Channel from Roku - Cord Cutters News
jacksmith21006 9y ago
Amazon is at fault here not Google. Amazon has now pulled Twitch from the Roku. Hopefully Google can stop Amazon anti competitive behavior. Heck Google created the Chromecast and then added YouTube support to the Roku.