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The dutch east india company controlled half the world at one point. Do you really believe today's corporations are more powerful? Your quote says laws should

The dutch east india company controlled half the world at one point. Do you really believe today's corporations are more powerful? Your quote says laws should evolve with the people which lends to neither of our arguments as we're discussing how it should evolve not "if".

tripzilch 9y ago
"The world" during the high days of the VOC was only 8% of the population today so it's kind of difficult to honestly compare, IMHO. But more importantly, the VOC "perished under corruption" not because it was dragged to court :) It's not really fair to say that "the system" dealt with it when it obviously just succumbed over time under the inevitability of impermanence.
- slededit 9y ago
  The Dutch east India company had standing armies and war ships. To say that modern companies are more powerfully merely because of population growth is a bit of a stretch. How they came to an end is irrelevant to whether courts are effective referees unless you believe the only fair thing is to destroy large companies.
  - notgoodenuff88 9y ago
    The fact that they had warships is pointless. We've seen companies today tank the global economy for no reason other than their own gambling fetish. People died because of it. Entirely families were wiped out economically. People are dying from lack of preventative healthcare because corporations think it would be too expensive. Corporations don't need literal guns to destroy lives. The courts are bound by laws and their historical interpretation in the court. Judges, scholars, and lawmakers themselves say we need to change the laws. But the location of the goal posts are well known to power players, and how to succeed within. You want free market competition, make them learn them again. We're stagnating because we have to mind the MBAs, and stay within the boundaries they've been told to maintain. We've moved beyond open warfare. The damage is being done in different ways. Set aside your guns fetish; nukes mean that large scale resolution of differences through war is not tenable. It's clear to me this conversation will not go much further. So I'm done with it. TTFN

tripzilch 9y ago

"The world" during the high days of the VOC was only 8% of the population today so it's kind of difficult to honestly compare, IMHO. But more importantly, the VOC "perished under corruption" not because it was dragged to court :) It's not really fair to say that "the system" dealt with it when it obviously just succumbed over time under the inevitability of impermanence.

slededit 9y ago
The Dutch east India company had standing armies and war ships. To say that modern companies are more powerfully merely because of population growth is a bit of a stretch. How they came to an end is irrelevant to whether courts are effective referees unless you believe the only fair thing is to destroy large companies.
- notgoodenuff88 9y ago
  The fact that they had warships is pointless. We've seen companies today tank the global economy for no reason other than their own gambling fetish. People died because of it. Entirely families were wiped out economically. People are dying from lack of preventative healthcare because corporations think it would be too expensive. Corporations don't need literal guns to destroy lives. The courts are bound by laws and their historical interpretation in the court. Judges, scholars, and lawmakers themselves say we need to change the laws. But the location of the goal posts are well known to power players, and how to succeed within. You want free market competition, make them learn them again. We're stagnating because we have to mind the MBAs, and stay within the boundaries they've been told to maintain. We've moved beyond open warfare. The damage is being done in different ways. Set aside your guns fetish; nukes mean that large scale resolution of differences through war is not tenable. It's clear to me this conversation will not go much further. So I'm done with it. TTFN