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> The China that tries to have trade both ways by forcing Hollywood to portray China positively just to get 50% of what they should at the Chinese box office?

> The China that tries to have trade both ways by forcing Hollywood to portray China positively just to get 50% of what they should at the Chinese box office? What's this one about?

stuffedBelly 9y ago
that probably refers to the large amount of capital from China instilled into Hollywood over recent years.
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ajkjk 9y ago
This kind of thing: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/08/did-you-catch-the-ways-hollywood-pandered-to-china-this-year https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/08/did-you-catch-t...
guiltygatorade 9y ago
Super layman's take: - China has a "ministry of culture" which decides what foreign media can enter the domestic market, especially to play on the big screen - Chinese domestic films enjoy what effectively is media protectionism - Hollywood obviously wants a piece of that giant market - What movies get approved/denied and for what reasons can get very arbitrary. So it comes down to a matter of trying to win favors of people deciding the approval process. - Often this means shooting big scenes in locations in China, or portraying China in a positive light, or starring Chinese characters, etc. This effectively translates to "you can help us look good globally and we allow you to make money in our market". I have no idea where the "get 50% what they should" came from, and I'm too lazy to look. But dealing with the Chinese government regulations is really just a quagmire of conflicts of interest. *Edit: formatting
abrak 9y ago
Chinese soft power. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/china-quest-for-soft-power-targeting-hollywood-culture-influence/8051980 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/china-quest-for-soft-p...
poke111 9y ago
For example, the remake of Red Dawn a few years ago was supposed to feature China invading the US. They changed in to North Korea under pressure. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237717/Red-Dawn-remake-swapped-Chinese-flags-insignia-North-Korean-ones-fear-losing-billion-dollar-box-office.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237717/Red-Dawn-rem...
forapurpose 9y ago
The Chinese government controls access to their lucrative movie market. There is no freedom of speech; people who displease them are punished with loss of access. Hollywood complies by making films that please the Chinese government censors. A quick search will find a NY Times article about the head of Disney going to China to apologize about a film about Tibet, and promising that such a thing would never happen again. IIRC, there are stories that Hollywood gives Chinese government censors prior review of films before they are finalized, and edits them as instructed/requested. When was the last time you saw a film critical of China? Showing China doing something bad? Complementary of the Dalai Lama?

> The China that tries to have trade both ways by forcing Hollywood to portray China positively just to get 50% of what they should at the Chinese box office? What's this one about?

stuffedBelly 9y ago

that probably refers to the large amount of capital from China instilled into Hollywood over recent years.

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ajkjk 9y ago

This kind of thing: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/08/did-you-catch-the-ways-hollywood-pandered-to-china-this-year https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/08/did-you-catch-t...

guiltygatorade 9y ago

Super layman's take: - China has a "ministry of culture" which decides what foreign media can enter the domestic market, especially to play on the big screen - Chinese domestic films enjoy what effectively is media protectionism - Hollywood obviously wants a piece of that giant market - What movies get approved/denied and for what reasons can get very arbitrary. So it comes down to a matter of trying to win favors of people deciding the approval process. - Often this means shooting big scenes in locations in China, or portraying China in a positive light, or starring Chinese characters, etc. This effectively translates to "you can help us look good globally and we allow you to make money in our market". I have no idea where the "get 50% what they should" came from, and I'm too lazy to look. But dealing with the Chinese government regulations is really just a quagmire of conflicts of interest. *Edit: formatting

abrak 9y ago

Chinese soft power. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/china-quest-for-soft-power-targeting-hollywood-culture-influence/8051980 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/china-quest-for-soft-p...

poke111 9y ago

For example, the remake of Red Dawn a few years ago was supposed to feature China invading the US. They changed in to North Korea under pressure. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237717/Red-Dawn-remake-swapped-Chinese-flags-insignia-North-Korean-ones-fear-losing-billion-dollar-box-office.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237717/Red-Dawn-rem...

forapurpose 9y ago

The Chinese government controls access to their lucrative movie market. There is no freedom of speech; people who displease them are punished with loss of access. Hollywood complies by making films that please the Chinese government censors. A quick search will find a NY Times article about the head of Disney going to China to apologize about a film about Tibet, and promising that such a thing would never happen again. IIRC, there are stories that Hollywood gives Chinese government censors prior review of films before they are finalized, and edits them as instructed/requested. When was the last time you saw a film critical of China? Showing China doing something bad? Complementary of the Dalai Lama?