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I thought it was supposed to be for phones. That's what I read last year: "I'm hearing this Cobalt [x86-on-ARM] technology is aimed at phone and possibly tablet

I thought it was supposed to be for phones. That's what I read last year: "I'm hearing this Cobalt [x86-on-ARM] technology is aimed at phone and possibly tablet/desktop devices." [1] I'm confused when it became a laptop thing at all. [1] http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-x86-on-arm64-emulation-a-windows-10-redstone-3-fall-2017-deliverable/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-x86-on-arm64-emulati...

TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago
Microsoft announced they were going to make vanilla Windows 10 run on Snapdragon.
- throwaway613834 9y ago
  Yeah but does that imply phones? Or is it about Snapdragon tablets or something?
WorldMaker 9y ago
It's always been something of a laptop thing? Microsoft since Windows 8 has made it somewhat clear they think Windows needs a strong presence on ARM tablets to A) avoid Intel hegemony, B) remain competitive with the iPad in that space. "It doesn't run any of my apps," was perhaps the biggest complaint about Windows 8 ARM tablets, so it makes sense that x86-on-ARM was a big strategy push before the next attempt. Beyond that, rumor has it that Microsoft hopes selling tablets/laptops with ARM will open the Windows ARM space enough in the meantime while the Windows team is finishing the next version of key Windows shell components (nicknamed the "Composable Shell" or CShell), which would be make the Continuum experience for say Phones stronger because instead of switching entirely different shell applications (start menu, taskbar, et al) between form factors, the same applications responsively adapt themselves.
- throwaway613834 9y ago
  I'm confused, I just quoted an article from 2016 saying it was about phones and possibly tablets/desktops, and you say it's always been a laptop thing? Anything you can quote from 2016 to that effect?
  - WorldMaker 9y ago
    The Verge's article from 2016 says "laptops are expected to be the first devices", and brings up Windows RT as the predecessor, just as I mentioned it: https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/7/13866936/microsoft-windows-10-arm-desktop-apps-support-qualcomm https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/7/13866936/microsoft-window...

TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago

Microsoft announced they were going to make vanilla Windows 10 run on Snapdragon.

throwaway613834 9y ago
Yeah but does that imply phones? Or is it about Snapdragon tablets or something?

WorldMaker 9y ago

It's always been something of a laptop thing? Microsoft since Windows 8 has made it somewhat clear they think Windows needs a strong presence on ARM tablets to A) avoid Intel hegemony, B) remain competitive with the iPad in that space. "It doesn't run any of my apps," was perhaps the biggest complaint about Windows 8 ARM tablets, so it makes sense that x86-on-ARM was a big strategy push before the next attempt. Beyond that, rumor has it that Microsoft hopes selling tablets/laptops with ARM will open the Windows ARM space enough in the meantime while the Windows team is finishing the next version of key Windows shell components (nicknamed the "Composable Shell" or CShell), which would be make the Continuum experience for say Phones stronger because instead of switching entirely different shell applications (start menu, taskbar, et al) between form factors, the same applications responsively adapt themselves.

throwaway613834 9y ago
I'm confused, I just quoted an article from 2016 saying it was about phones and possibly tablets/desktops, and you say it's always been a laptop thing? Anything you can quote from 2016 to that effect?
- WorldMaker 9y ago
  The Verge's article from 2016 says "laptops are expected to be the first devices", and brings up Windows RT as the predecessor, just as I mentioned it: https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/7/13866936/microsoft-windows-10-arm-desktop-apps-support-qualcomm https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/7/13866936/microsoft-window...