> IIRC, all phones shipping with Oreo are required to support Treble. "Shipping" is the keyword. So OEMs can get around that trivially by shipping the phone wi

> IIRC, all phones shipping with Oreo are required to support Treble. "Shipping" is the keyword. So OEMs can get around that trivially by shipping the phone with Nougat and promising to update to Oreo very shortly thereafter, thereby bypassing the requirement. Look no further than the recently launched OnePlus 5T: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/21/oneplus-confirms-wont-project-treble-current-devices-including-oneplus-5t/ http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/21/oneplus-confirms-won... I would not be surprised if they intentionally did it this way just to get around the Project Treble requirements. > Also, Treble doesn't allow you to get updates "without having to wait for the OEMs", it just makes it easier for OEMs to update Android This is true, but it could also allow one to more easily flash ROMs onto the device without the usual unlocking the bootleader process, which would in theory let people then put a ROM onto their phone that's still getting updates, a la LineageOS. OEMS, predictably, probably see that as a drawback.